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re: The reality of travel baseball

Posted on 5/29/26 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/29/26 at 7:54 pm to
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Are some parents seriously saying shite like that about their kids before they even make it to double digit ages?


Listened to some similar version everyday at work…
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42346 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 7:59 pm to
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quote:Iron sharpens iron Basketball and tennis it does. To get better you have to play against other top competition, I don’t think football or baseball is true. Football is 90% making yourself as athletic as possible and having the measurables. Baseball is a skill game. You develop skills by skill training far more so than playing the game. That’s one of the reasons why college coaches don’t care about your high school stats. They need to see your swing, and radar gun before any game play.


As the dad of a kid that just went from rec ball to 10u tournament ball you’re completely wrong.

My son was either the best or 2nd best kid on his rec team every year and it wasn’t close. Only 1 or 2 kids could claim to be the best player any given game but mostly it was my son.

This year he got on a team thats got some kids better and some kids not quite as good overall, but every kid is capable of being the best player any given game game/weekend/week.

It’s made him have to focus, like really focus, on every rep in practice or else the kid he’s competing for playing time with will play more.

My son has developed more this year playing baseball because his teammates have pushed him to be better.

Surrounding yourself with better teammates in ANY aspect of life will force you to up your game/performance or you’ll be left behind. It’s not just a sports thing.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25533 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:03 pm to
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Baked in the sun all day, moving tents, watching shite between games so it doesn’t get stolen, dealing with shitty umps, beating down big mouth dads in the parking lot. It’s exhausting. Sure, Xaxston crushed it and went 9-15 against that cross-county trash, but at the end of the day, I show up to work exhausted with other dudes blood all over my undershirt. Blood is hard to get out!


The exact person I just described. I will never be able to comprehend people trying to sound like a "cool kid" on an anonymous message board.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25533 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Surrounding yourself with better teammates in ANY aspect of life will force you to up your game/performance or you’ll be left behind. It’s not just a sports thing.


Solid points. They take the jabs that every parent thinks their kid is going to the MLB, but the reality of playing any sport at a high level teaches you how to compete, how to fail, how to be a good teammate, etc etc etc. All lessons that will translate to WAY more than just sports. Now do you have to be a competitive athlete to be successful? Of course not. But give me somebody that has had to grind, compete, and earn every last thing over someone who can learn words in a book all day. The work ethic learned translates to literally everything in life.
This post was edited on 5/29/26 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52059 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:19 pm to
Yeah playing against shite competition definitely doesn’t matter

It’s all about soft toss in the batting cage
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25533 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:33 pm to
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My daughter plays 10u open class competitive softball. Legit shite, girls are throwing 55-60 mph from 35 feet.



Where are you from, and what type of tournaments are yall playing?
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:43 pm to
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wtf are talking about? very very few teams travel more than an hour and especially not more than 2x per year. 99% of teams in LA do not travel more than an hour the whole season.


Likely depends you where you are. If Houston or NOLA, there may not be much travel. In central MS, there's a ton of overnight weekend travel for even the lower tier teams. If you play a late game in Hattiesburg on Saturday, then have an early game on Sunday, it's likely a hotel stay even though you are two hours from home.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42346 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:53 pm to
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My daughter plays 10u open class competitive softball. Legit shite, girls are throwing 55-60 mph from 35 feet.


No they aren’t at 10u. If you said 12u or 14u, absolutely. There is no way 10u girls are throwing that hard. It’s bio mechanically impossible.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42346 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:54 pm to
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Where are you from, and what type of tournaments are yall playing?


Apparently in the enhanced games
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1241 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:54 pm to
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At the highest levels, is legit travel ball. You have some absolutely great softball/baseball being played. Most kids are well coached, and those kids bust their arse. Very few last playing if they don't truly want to be there

This. Alliance & PGF for softball are in another world compared to usssa level crap. This is the level that actually matters and is legit traveling for travel ball.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52059 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:00 pm to
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6u rec all stars

Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7372 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:05 pm to
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Where are you from, and what type of tournaments are yall playing?


Birmingham area. PGF and USSSA
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7372 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:08 pm to
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No they aren’t at 10u. If you said 12u or 14u, absolutely. There is no way 10u girls are throwing that hard. It’s bio mechanically impossible.




Yes dude they are. Look at your age eligibility rules for travel ball, a girl playing 10u right now can be born after Sept 1 2014, so they are 11 almost 12.

50-55, every open class team has 1, most teams 2.
55+, your top teams have one
60+, first I've seen at this age.
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1364 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:13 pm to
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It’s all about soft toss in the batting cage


Well practicing your swing against a machine throw 85 mph-95 mph is a better use of your time than any actual game at the skill developing age.

Not to mention long toss routines to strengthen your arm.

If I were to build a pro athlete, do it the European way. Skill development is first before game play.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25533 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:31 pm to
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Alliance & PGF for softball are in another world compared to usssa level crap. This is the level that actually matters and is legit traveling for travel ball.


Yeah.

Fassa
Usssa
Usfa
Alliance
PGF

In that order. Fassa and C level usssa is advanced rec ball. Pgf is an entirely different ball game. One that the people that repeat the same BS are absolutely clueless about
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25533 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:38 pm to
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Birmingham area. PGF and USSSA


I find it very hard to believe you have kids throwing 60 at 10U, even in PGF. At your basic USSSA tournament, there is no way.

The ages you referenced are a change in USSSA to go more with the school calender. Previously you had kids in the same grade who were having to play two different age groups.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8654 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:43 pm to
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quote:No they aren’t at 10u. If you said 12u or 14u, absolutely. There is no way 10u girls are throwing that hard. It’s bio mechanically impossible. Yes dude they are. Look at your age eligibility rules for travel ball, a girl playing 10u right now can be born after Sept 1 2014, so they are 11 almost 12. 50-55, every open class team has 1, most teams 2. 55+, your top teams have one 60+, first I've seen at this age.


I don’t know enough about the older age groups, but I can vouch for the age thing you’re referencing.

GBBA 6U AAA are full of 7 year olds, 7U full of 8 year olds, etc.
This post was edited on 5/29/26 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6215 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 10:45 pm to
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Likely depends you where you are. If Houston or NOLA, there may not be much


Go look at a schedule for spring in south la
There are 3 towns with less than 12k that are hosting a baseball or softball tournament every weekend and another 3 towns with 20k doing the same
90% of the teams are traveling an hour or less
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6421 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 10:54 pm to
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Well practicing your swing against a machine throw 85 mph-95 mph is a better use of your time than any actual game at the skill developing age.


The other day, I heard a guy say the reason European basketball players were better than American these day is due to their practicing more than playing.

In our AAU circuit games are prioritized over practice. Over there it is the opposite, they do tons of drills.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25533 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 11:53 pm to
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Yes dude they are. Look at your age eligibility rules for travel ball, a girl playing 10u right now can be born after Sept 1 2014, so they are 11 almost 12.


Correct. Meaning the oldest 10U players were in 5th grade, going to 6th now. Those kids aren't throwing 60. At big time PGF tournaments you only have a handful at 12U throwing 60. Most of them sit between 55-58. Nobody really struggles with fast balls at that speed. Its the rise, drop, change, curve, and ability to hit spots that makes the pitching so good. You dont get any of that in USSSA really.

For legit travel ball teams, they aren't really able to play in local tournaments. We had a PGF event canceled bc of weather and ended up going to Denham to play in a USSSA tournament just to play that weekend. By the 2nd inning of multiple games our kids were hitting and then running straight to the dug out after bc the score was 15-0. That does no good for anybody. Zero of those kids were throwing anywhere near 55.
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