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re: The OT Book Club & Literary Society, week of 1-20

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Posted by Thurber
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:37 am to
Kafka
Will have to watch later, but thanks!
My pops loves Wodehouse. Jeeves especially
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:45 am to
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My pops loves Wodehouse. Jeeves especially
LINK ]The World of Wooster

One of the few (only?) surviving episodes of a 1968 BBC TV series which was mostly erased. Jeeves is played by Dennis Price, star of the classic Kind Hearts & Coronets.
Posted by Thurber
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:47 am to
Kafka dropping serious knowledge!
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:55 am to
I've been reading How to Win Friends and Influence People and it's been changing some viewpoints of mine.
Posted by Manky
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:08 pm to
Just finished "Monuments Men". About allied efforts to save art and historic sites during WW2. Great subject but the way the narrative flows (it doesnt) makes for a tough read.

Posted by epbart
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:45 pm to
Winesburg, Ohio by Sherwood Anderson.

Recently finished this and thought it was excellent. In truth, I wasn't familiar with it before and found it sitting atop a pile of books someone placed in the service hallway of my building to be thrown out/recycled. Picked it up, read the back cover citing it as an American classic that had inspired Hemingway, Faulkner, etc. and my interest was piqued.

It's a collection of short stories, each story being a sort of character study of one of the inhabitants of Winesburg. Anderson gives each character a significant character flaw and the flaw creates the tension that shapes how the character responds to the important choices he or she faces-- choices that either lead them towards meaningful relationships or away from them. The bitterness and frustration of each character becomes an oppressive weight that leads them into further desolation in an already dreary, small Ohio town. The author always seems to include at least one other vantage point from another character that contrasts the flawed view of the main character, and it is in this contrast that we see the flaws of the characters. Sometimes the possibility of choice is subtle or seems remote, but it's there. It's not just a matter of getting dealt a bad hand in life; there is always potential for change and redemption. Failure to make such choices leads to moral failures that mentally and emotionally cripple the characters, turning them into what Anderson calls "grotesques"... grotesques being people whose choices make them so ugly on the inside and disconnected that in a way they aren't really human anymore... or at least not fully human; they become caricatures of sorts.

Each story tends to stand on it's own well enough, but the book also synthesizes into a novel at another level. At the center is a young man, George Willard, the town reporter. He does not appear in all of the stories, but is a frequent character whose presence grows as the book moves along. Sometimes, he is a marginal presence or a minor antogonist; on a couple of occasions he becomes the confidante of another character, and it is through their confiding in George Willard that we learn their stories. Finally, he emerges as the protagonist in a coming of age sort of way. Having grown up and encountered many of the grotesques in Winesburg, and having flirted with his own shortcomings that might result in him falling into a similar orbit as other characters, George succeeds in making the most genuine connection with another person found in the entire book and the possibility of a different future emerges.

Stylistically, the book has a direct, plain style of writing that makes it easy to read, though I wouldn't call it light. Reading about it online afterwards, I see that it's considered an influential early work of modernist literature and that both Hemingway and Faulkner do openly credit this book as an influence (as stated on the book's back cover). I'd imagine Flannery O'Connor was also more than familiar with it, as well. In particular, Anderson's idea of "grotesques" resonates strongly in her work.

The book's strongest point might be it's high degree of psychological insight-- at least I think so. Some might find this book of sad, small town characters to be depressing. It is a starkly realistic view of people in a small town that have gotten themselves into ruts, which is necessarily not happy. But on the whole I don't find it sad or cynical. I see a lot of sympathy and compassion in the writing, and Anderson's depiction of sad characters is not a matter of him pointing his finger just to say what's wrong with them. There's always a thread of hope and an invitation to grab that thread and re-connect with humanity.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:47 pm to
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I've been reading How to Win Friends and Influence People and it's been changing some viewpoints of mine
yeah I could tell by your gracious comments after the Saints lost
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:10 pm to
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yeah I could tell by your gracious comments after the Saints lost





I was pretty critical on Jimmy Graham.
Posted by S
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:13 pm to
Balls deep in reminiscences of a stock operator. Will re-read when i finish.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:16 pm to
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The World of Wooster

One of the few (only?) surviving episodes of a 1968 BBC TV series which was mostly erased. Jeeves is played by Dennis Price, star of the classic Kind Hearts & Coronets.

Did you ever see the Jeeves & Wooster series with Steven Fry as Jeeves and Hugh Laurie (House) as Bertie Wooster? Classic.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:09 pm to
one bump for the night crew
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:47 pm to
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Just started the power of now by Eckhart tolle (meditation),


Nice. I have read this and its pretty good. Post back your thoughts when you finish it.
Posted by S
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:56 pm to
knocked out 3 chapters today. tolstoy, here i come.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:33 pm to
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Before bed each night, we sit down with our daughter, turn off the TV, and read books. Its a habit that we've been doing since she was 1. I hope that I can continue to encourage her to want to read.


We developed a variation of the tooth fairy meme. If one of the three girls lost a tooth, the Tooth Fairy brought them a suitable book. If one of the two boys lost a tooth, the Tooth Rat paid them a visit. I was the final arbiter for what the boys read and my wife reigned supreme for the girls. But we always kicked it around a bit before going to buy something.

I've been rereading Goodbye,Darkness William Manchester's cathartic autobiographical work dealing primarily with his service in WW2 as a USMC Infantryman in the Pacific. His first paragraph is so overwhelmingly gripping, well written and heartbreaking that when I first started reading it standing up in the bookstore many years ago, I read standing up for nearly two hours, bought it near closing time and stayed up most of the night reading it. Powerful and well written. When I started rereading this it inspired me to start his biography of Churchill all over again. After those, I may reread his biography of Douglas McArthur, American Caesar.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Kafka


Thanks for the direction. I'll keep a look out for future threads.

Just finished Malcolm Gladwell's David and Goliath.

And I hope audio is ok in this thread because I both read and whenever I'm in my vehicle I always have one to listen too.

Also just finished Ike's Bluff, Evan Thomas' book on Eisenhower. Really a great read about a president I knew little about.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:03 pm to
Readers only. Your kind aint welcome round here
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:07 pm to
Read this.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:12 pm to


This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:17 pm to
Give me your phone number and I'll give you an audio version.
Posted by Ray Finkle
Collier county
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:22 pm to
Reading The Secret of Lost Things by Sheridan Hay right now.
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