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re: The obesity epidemic

Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by dexy82
Madison, WI
Member since Sep 2004
2073 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:11 pm to
This topic got me thinking about all the times I’ve gone in for a physical or check up in the past decade. Most if not all the nurses were obese. The doctors not so much.

How can you perform a physical or lecture anyone on health and have a fit person take them seriously?

Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6393 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:19 pm to
Working in Mississippi the last few weeks and it is striking how many fat chicks are around here. It has been rare that I have seen a fit girl. I go out to eat and it's a bunch a toothpick dudes with heifers.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10958 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

How can you perform a physical or lecture anyone on health and have a fit person take them seriously?

How can a bald man be a barber?
Posted by dexy82
Madison, WI
Member since Sep 2004
2073 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

How can a bald man be a barber?


Oh stop.
Not the same at all

And to add to my post
If I wanted to get chided by a nurse or physician about my health

They better be built like an ‘In their prime nfl wide receiver or a female Olympic pole vaulter

Jus sayin
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:27 pm to
I went in for my yearly physical at my doctor. I came in at 174 lbs - at 6'2". He told me flat out that I was at a perfect weight and that people were going to tell me I was too thin bc people are so large now. Sure enough, I just got a lecture from a family member on my weight. Told me I needed to eat more. Her son is probably 5'10" and close to 300 lbs.

I don't have to take any meds for cholesterol, hypertension - nothing - in my early 50s. Her son isn't even 30 yet and he'll be on everything in a few years if he doesn't trim some of that weight off.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted by dexy82
Madison, WI
Member since Sep 2004
2073 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

I went in for my yearly physical at my doctor. I came in at 174 lbs - at 6'2"


I’m almost 50

I wish I was that
I’m 185 at about 5’11
Beer is my vice

But I’m pretty active
People think I lift weights, big arms and broad shoulders but I haven’t lifted a weight in 20 years
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10958 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:46 pm to
How can a midget coach basketball?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36784 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:00 pm to
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The only times you aren't regularly pwned on these boards is while you're banned... You aren't very good at this.


He isn't being owned and the good doc is being dishonest and using a straw man argument.

He is saying that because people regain weight, they need meds.

Which is just a way to treat laziness both from a fitness standpoint snd from a compliance stand point.

One of the biggest reasons for weight gain later in life is lack of muscle mass ftr.

Ftr no...hormones don't really matter once protein and calories are equated...hundreds of studies showing this.

I could go on and post a hundred studies showing the doc is wrong...but I have no desire to argue.

And honestly I do not care if the mess help people lose weight and the doc prescribes them. In fact if that is what it takes...then do it.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36784 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

crazy4lsu


BTW both Layne Norton and menno along with Alan argon in Aarr have posted dozens upon dozens of studies showing protein and calories are all that matter and compliance is an extremely complicated issue but satiety is number 1 thing.

Glad read Alan argon research review.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:05 pm to
Because they are the ultimate consumers, and medical science helps them live much longer than they would otherwise.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37173 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

BTW both Layne Norton and menno along with Alan argon in Aarr have posted dozens upon dozens of studies showing protein and calories are all that matter and compliance is an extremely complicated issue but satiety is number 1 thing.

Glad read Alan argon research review.


Those don't count because he doesn't like them.
Posted by dstarsntigers
Member since Apr 2022
796 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Americans health would significantly approve if everyone at least walked 30 minutes each day. But that's impossible in some places.

How is that impossible in some places? All it takes is legs and the ground.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11437 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:18 pm to
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So people who are lazy, undisciplined, and selfish feel better about themselves


I know this is your schtick, but you couldn't be more correct. Like with anything else in life, you can be honest and un-filtered with people or go the participation trophy/its ok not to be considered a failure when you haven't put forth your best effort route.

I have yet to see one instance where the second method ever helped anyone over 5 years of age. And I cant think of a whole lot of times it helped someone under 5.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

He is saying that because people regain weight, they need meds


Mother fricker, you assholes need to read. Good christ.

quote:

Ftr no...hormones don't really matter once protein and calories are equated...hundreds of studies showing this.



Then why do we see such high degrees of weight-gain relapse?

quote:

Which is just a way to treat laziness both from a fitness standpoint snd from a compliance stand point.



You don't know anything about the compliance issue.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37173 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Mother fricker, you assholes need to read. Good christ.


If everyone seemingly misrepresents your point, maybe you are bad at making it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

posted dozens upon dozens of studies showing protein and calories are all that matter


Where did I deny this? Give me the actual post where I said this. For the love of god, you people invent things I said, and still act like you aren't dishonest.

What I'm suggesting is literally from the clinical practice guidelines published in 2020 from the DOD/VA and Canadian guidelines, which are extensions of the 2016 AACE guidelines, which are based on position statements from 2012. But post whatever studies you want, you dumb hack.

Since you assholes are so intent on lying about what I've said, the 2018 paper on gut microbiota and the development of obesity says literally what I've said, but before I continue, I want some clarity from you assholes about what I've said and where I've said it, because it appears you dishonest fricks can't read.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:37 pm to
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If everyone seemingly misrepresents your point, maybe you are bad at making it.



Well, I don't know how you were able to get the exact opposite sentiment from a post that was literally about a patient crying from my refusal to give a med, but other than the incredible dishonesty you showed there, I'll admit I'm not the best writer, although you were the only person who seemingly could not understand that particular post, despite repeated attempts to correct you. Are we going to finally talk about how dishonest you were in using that as a defense to prevent further discussion? Or are we just going to slink away again, and wait for back-up from someone else who also puts words in my mouth?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37173 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

What I'm suggesting is literally from the clinical practice guidelines published in 2020 from the DOD/VA and Canadian guidelines


Lol
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Those don't count because he doesn't like them.



What?

And are you ever going to post those studies that you suggested were paid for by lobbyists?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Lol



Before I correct you, I need you to try to piece together my argument, because it appears you are nearly retarded.
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