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re: The National debt surpasses $38 trillion

Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4203 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:28 pm to
I don’t one second believe that number. No way to be that accurate.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90670 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:40 pm to
Bring back Bill Clinton (not his bitch wife)/Newt. Every president since has been zero fricks given about the national debt.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66949 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:42 pm to
These are pretty much the only bros who care and MAGA world hates them. Sad!
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Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6330 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:44 pm to
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And do what with the almost 70 million Americans on Medicare ?


Put a cutoff on it. If you are 60 or over now you get to keep it. After that, no more. Phase out or severely limit Medicaid over a 10 year period. As time goes on 2 of the 5 biggest budget items disappear.

Convert Social Security into a voluntary 401(k) system with contributions already made placed into an individual account for everyone 50 and under. System continues as is with opt out and contribution return for everyone between 51 and 64.

Not perfect, but a start.
Posted by DWIGHT
LSU
Member since Dec 2008
301 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:44 pm to
Who cares

Just erase it and start over
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90670 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:45 pm to
Agree the only true conservatives in the Republican party. Love how MAGA calls Massie a retard when he graduated from MIT, probably the most prestigious school in America
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297577 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:45 pm to
Paul And Massie were PB darlings a few years ago. Now they;'re more hated than Democrats.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78788 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Love how MAGA calls Massie a retard when he graduated from MIT, probably the most prestigious school in America

Prestigious schools are bad now
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90670 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:03 pm to
Of course
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17179 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:09 pm to
you better pay out the money people put in plus interest or whoever decides they aren't getting they're money back is committing suicide - politically and otherwise.

it won't be pretty.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27595 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:10 pm to
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Can't the king just cancel all the debt?

The king always spends like this.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:18 pm to
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The tariffs generate an unbelievable amount of revenue and everyone hates trump for it. The American population just won’t stand for austerity.

Hey this guy is smart. I just fact checked it and it looks like he's right.

CNBC-Trump's Tariffs Reduce Deficit

quote:

President Donald Trump’s tariffs were a major contributor to tariff collections of $202 billion for the year, representing a 142% surge from 2024. September saw $30 billion in tariff payments, up 295% from the same period a year ago.

Treasury officials estimated Thursday that the dip in the budget shortfall will bring the ratio of deficit to gross domestic product to 5.9%. The measure has not been below 6% since 2022 and generally runs around the 3% area except in times of economic stress.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3416 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:22 pm to
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Put a cutoff on it. If you are 60 or over now you get to keep it. After that, no more.


So long as you give me every dollar of my withholdings from 18-57 cool no problem. Give me my money back and then start there
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43986 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:28 pm to
No one in gov’t has the will to fix this. My grandchildren are doomed.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:30 pm to
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So long as you give me every dollar of my withholdings from 18-57 cool no problem. Give me my money back and then start there
You guys voted for decades to put us into this mess.

For the good of our society, you can sacrifice to get us out of it.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:33 pm to
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My grandchildren are doomed.

Anyone under 70 is probably doomed.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3416 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:54 pm to
Well I can still kick your arse. How about that scruffy ole shite head pal
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19078 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:04 pm to
Bill Clinton’s not walking through that door
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:26 pm to
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Just erase it and start over
just write it off.
Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
964 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:39 pm to
The real number is Debt over GDP. Spoiler; GFC, Obama, and Covid fuxored us.

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