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re: The National Anthem...Why is everyone offended by the kneeling/sitting?

Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:30 am to
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24835 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:30 am to
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he only way this involves the "free market" is if people choose to spend their entertainment budget elsewhere and/or sponsors reactions.


That's exactly my point. Sponsors and tv contracts aren't going anywhere because people want to watch the nfl minus the outraged idiots on this board
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:31 am to
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The only way this involves[the "free market" is if people choose to spend their entertainment budget elsewhere and/or sponsors reactions.



Right, which works against his position.

The markets are then advertising dollars and ticket sales. The "old dollar" vote principle.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:31 am to
Hillary is not going to jail in our lifetime

Just like the NFL is not going to tank over this stuff

The Breitbart wet dream is just that, a dream
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 12:32 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:33 am to
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That's exactly my point. Sponsors and tv contracts aren't going anywhere because people want to watch the nfl minus the outraged idiots on this board




Dude, if ratings drop airtime becomes less valuable and contracts get smaller

Have you ever taken an Econ class in your life? You haven't a frickn clue how it works
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 12:34 am
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24835 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:34 am to
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Right, which works against his position. The markets are then advertising dollars and ticket sales. The "old dollar" vote principle.


And there's his semantics argument on cue
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 12:56 am
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:34 am to
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Because no one was fired, everyone united against him and twice as many people knelt Trumpers doing more mental gymnastics I see


No. Just no. People who love or hate Trump just want to watch the fricking game.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:35 am to
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And there's his semantics argument on cue.


Semantics?

Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24835 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:35 am to
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Dude, if ratings drop airtime becomes less valuable and contracts get smaller


Link to contracts getting smaller?

nb4speculation
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144685 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:36 am to
The NFL doesn't truly operate in the Free Market. They operate under Anti-trust laws.

Spaulding, I don't believe the NFL is going away. But I do think the owners could possibly change their position and start requiring its employees to stand for the NA.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:39 am to
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Spaulding, I don't believe the NFL is going away. But I do think the owners could possibly change their position and start requiring its employees to stand for the NA.



This will not happen. The shite this would stir would be 10x what it is from these angry dolts. An owner would commit career suicide forcing an athlete to stand for the anthem and thus silencing their protest
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21815 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:39 am to
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I bet that one stung..."but my neighbors kid died in Iraq for the American flag!!! Not some limey British flag! Stand up punk!!!"


Was that the level of conversation did you want me to lower to? Is that why you are trolling this thread? I think the "koolaid" you are sipping has made you Punch Drunk.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:41 am to
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The NFL doesn't truly operate in the Free Market. They operate under Anti-trust law


They have a waiver that allows the league to regulate for "competitive balance". It's far from a free market
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12858 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:42 am to
Again, trolls are so much better when they are smart and clever. You and what's his face have neither.

Like 10 posts per page. Definition of trying too hard
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:43 am to
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An owner would commit career suicide forcing an athlete to stand for the anthem and thus silencing their protest


The players hold the cards because the level of talent required to play in the league and the small pool of available talent
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144685 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:44 am to
If you truly believe there isn't going to be any back lash from the NFL's customers, why are you getting so worked up?
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
2679 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:45 am to


the owner of the company you worked for told you to do something, would you do it?

Whose committing career suicide here? The owner, or player?

How's Kap looking these days?

Keep trying.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12858 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:46 am to
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The players hold the cards because the level of talent required to play in the league and the small pool of available talent


Kapernick is better than many 2nd and 3rd string QBs that are currently under contract in the NFL. Owners decided his distraction is not good for business
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:46 am to
It is very interesting to see conservatives go anti-football and liberals go pro-football. If anything, it usually breaks down the other way.

Anyways, my take is that football will eventually die (or at least change so much that it is unrecognizable). But this won't happen because of the take-a-knee protests. It will happen because of brain trauma, lawsuits, and declining viewership stemming from changes to the rules.

I, for one, welcome these changes, especially at the major public university. It is high-time ADs are reigned in a little bit -- they have become semi-autonomous entities with little real connection to the university.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:47 am to
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the owner of the company you worked for told you to do something, would you do it?



Do I have the leverage to say no? If so then no.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:48 am to
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Kapernick is better than many 2nd and 3rd string QBs that are currently under contract in the NFL. Owners decided his distraction is not good for business



I'm not so sure. His career path is on a downward trajectory. I'll bet if someone could get him for league minimum they would
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