re: The low flu cases

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Dude, have you spent any time in New Orleans recently? Why don't you come down to Mardi Gras and report back to us how it was this year. Or if you are in Bham, how is Highlands Bar and Grill doing these days? Eaten there recently?

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Canceling a large gathering event is not a lockdown . What is up with the Bar and Grill? Serious question IDK. I see some restaurants not as crowded bc people choose to stay away from places like that but are not forced to stay away . Maybe I am misinterpreting “lockdown” but to me it means business forced to close and people staying home only to go to essential businesses . It not like that in the places I have been in Ms, and Al

I am not condoning actual lockdowns I just pointed out that everything is pretty normal where I live and most on here. N.O. Is different but that is your mayors fault . Is everything locked down or just bars ?

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the fact that, literally everywhere, when COVID numbers increase, flu numbers decrease

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First - the size of the flu virus is roughly the same as the corona virus (80-120 microns for the flu to 60-140 microns for COVID) - so the mask argument is moot. Both can fly through a standard mask.

Now with that said - follow the math:

In 2019, there were estimates of 50 million flu cases (last full year of numbers)
In 2020, there were 26 million COVID cases

That would be AT MAX 76 million cases combined
And twice as many flu cases as COVID cases

There are estimates of a 98% drop in the flu meaning 1 MILLION cases this year (if that were accurate and went all year)

Apply that to the numbers we know

We lose 49 MILLION cases of virus A
But only GAIN 26 MILLION of virus B

Meaning we only have 35% of all total possible cases of both and would only lose - AT MAX half the flu cases if COVID was 100% effective at interfering with the flu

And ASSUMING that 100% interference exists with COVID while knowing the viruses both can pass through standard masks, where did the other 25 million flu cases go?

Maybe there IS some cross interference

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First - the size of the flu virus is roughly the same as the corona virus (80-120 microns for the flu to 60-140 microns for COVID) - so the mask argument is moot. Both can fly through a standard mask.

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oh ffs

neither the flu nor COVID are "flying" around on their own FWIW

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In 2019, there were estimates of 50 million flu cases
In 2020, there were 26 million COVID cases

That would be AT MAX 76 million cases combined
And twice as many flu cases as COVID cases

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no difference in 2019 and 2020, eh?

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Maybe there IS some cross interference

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if you can find data that shows flu cases increasing and COVID cases decreasing, I'd like to see it

Duh

"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed."

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First - the size of the flu virus is roughly the same as the corona virus (80-120 microns for the flu to 60-140 microns for COVID) - so the mask argument is moot. Both can fly through a standard mask.

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Masks aside, standard mitigation practices for respiratory illnesses is hand washing and distancing. Also staying home from school/work when you are sick.

Or are you just pretending this is exclusively about masking? If so, your argument is completely moot.

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Masks aside, standard mitigation practices for respiratory illnesses is hand washing and distancing. Also staying home from school/work when you are sick.

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So this kills 25 million flu cases but doesn’t stop COVID? who’s pretending now?

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Can’t have it both ways

If masks stop the flu and NOT COVID - but the flu ALSO interferes with COVID

Shouldn’t we NOT wear masks so that we get the “non-pandemic” flu and let it interfere with getting COVID?

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Since Chemo makes people's hair fall out and Cancer kills people, we should just shave everyone's heads so that everyone will just be cancer free.

Bruh, where has this been debunked? Other than people saying it's not true. Where is THE SCIENCE?! Where da flu go, yo?!

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Social distancing and less handshaking/hugging also at play I’m sure.

Once flu returns, will it be more severe?

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Except we're being told COVID numbers are crazy because people AREN'T wearing their masks... and are not social distancing... and are gathering in crowds and hugging their grand parents etc. So, which is it? If those are the reason for COVID cases being so high, it would seem pretty obvious that flu cases should also be pretty high.

You all don't really think about these contradictions at all, do you?