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re: The internet has essentially split reality
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:13 am to dnm3305
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:13 am to dnm3305
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No, SHE is the problem. And her 7 kids that she doesn’t give a frick about that have no fathers. Laziness and entitlement being coupled with massive propaganda psyops are a bigger problem. There will always be billionaires, and we should want billionaires as we should appreciate Capitalism.
No .
The corporate welfare recipients and Billionaires are a far bigger problem for America, financially.. Your overly-emotional response to seeing a fat lazy slob of a woman at Walmart doesnt change that fact .
And this is why there will always be two Americas, and never the two shall agree if you cant look past your emotions to see basic facts .
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:13 am to dnm3305
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No, SHE is the problem. And her 7 kids that she doesn’t give a frick about that have no fathers.
Laziness and entitlement being coupled with massive propaganda psyops are a bigger problem. There will always be billionaires, and we should want billionaires as we should appreciate Capitalism.
Clearly both are problems.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:43 am to BK Lounge
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The corporate welfare recipients and Billionaires are a far bigger problem for America, financially.. Your overly-emotional response to seeing a fat lazy slob of a woman at Walmart doesnt change that fact .
Ok, what is your solution then? Billionaires are a byproduct and unavoidable outcome in a Capitalistic society, which is what America was founded on and is still driven by today. We exist due to competition.
Do you want to go to full blown Communism or Socialism?
Enabling millions, not just a few, MILLIONS, of said fat lazy slob women to game the system and not contribute was not the intent and obviously strains all systems due to fraud as well as societal stress due to the majority of people in this country that work their arse off to support a large segment that are lazy.
Explain your solution on how you would eliminate billionaires and which financial system you would like to switch to.
You're claiming I'm being emotional, yet your argument is only "I HATE BILLIONAIRES. BILLIONAIRE BAD."
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:47 am to northshorebamaman
So much of Skinner and Carl Jungs work has been used in marketing, and various other subjects. The amount of psychology that goes into sports betting is absolutely insane.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:47 am to Funky Tide 8
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Clearly both are problems.
How?
Why are billionaires a problem?
There may be immoral billionaires that have nefarious intent and obviously due to their success, the wealth to sway and act in unjust ways, but that doesn't make the billionaire the problem, that makes that person who happens to be a billionaire a problem.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:50 am to dnm3305
I don't want to eliminate billionaires, but I would love to set some pretty hard rules on companies that take any sort of government corporate welfare. Sorry, but Radeon and Northrop Grumman are basically government entities at this point. Hell Daniel Defense and FN basically sell to citizens at artificially high prices partially due to government contracts.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:03 pm to Jcorye1
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I don't want to eliminate billionaires, but I would love to set some pretty hard rules on companies that take any sort of government corporate welfare. Sorry, but Radeon and Northrop Grumman are basically government entities at this point. Hell Daniel Defense and FN basically sell to citizens at artificially high prices partially due to government contracts.
I 100% agree with that. And there should be term limits or Congress and Senate, they should NEVER be allowed to purchase stocks, nor should any person in office receive a single campaign finance dime from any of these billionaires as it literal corruption out in the open.
And frick Larry Fink, frick Blackrock, and all of those assholes.
That doesn't mean them being billionaires is the problem.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:40 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
The internet has essentially split reality
Eh, it isn't the internet.
The phenomena exists now because:
1) Media institutions have decided to not report the facts as they are in clear, no frills way as to show the "truth," of an event. This goes for both sides on everything. The fact of the matter is that no one knows if corruption actually happened or not, and it's not the internet that did that - it's the journalists. Everything you point to is irrelevant, and those takes would be irrelevant, if it was clear whether or not something did or didn't happen.
2) Other organizations and entities are event more interested in dividing than journalists are, and they do everything in their power to create that environment. There are dollars to be made in that. And a lot of them.
Really- it isn't "the internet," or even "people." It's generally that influential systems of control that have the most to gain from the current climate.
I will say that people won't dig themselves out of the hole.
This is one of the most incredible pieces of journalism over the last few decades. The sheer lunacy of that photo, that tagline, is everything you need to know about the current state of affairs.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:27 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:That’s actually a decent summary, yeah.
There's one side doing bad things, and wants us all to believe that they aren't, but instead it's the OTHER side doing the REALLY bad things.
And if you don't believe the 1st side, then you're an 'ist.'.
Is that it?
There’s one side doing bad things and trying to convince everyone it’s really the other side doing worse things. And if you don’t believe the first side, you’re labeled an “ist.”
And in the mirror there’s the other side doing bad things, pushing the same “it’s actually them” narrative, and if you don’t buy that version, you’re branded a marxist, a commie, or un-American.
Which is the whole point. Two sides, same script, different villains. Both absolutely convinced of their own righteousness.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:48 pm to northshorebamaman
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Which is the whole point. Two sides, same script, different villains. Both absolutely convinced of their own righteousness.
Except it's NOT the same script. It's NOT 2 sides of the same coin.
Folks just say that to blur reality.
There was no Russian collusion.
No one ever called Nazis 'very fine people'.
Hunter's laptop was never 'tradecraft'. It was ALWAYS authentic and real.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:04 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:I get where you’re coming from, and honestly your reaction proves my point. You’re arguing from inside the framework I just described.
Except it's NOT the same script. It's NOT 2 sides of the same coin.
Folks just say that to blur reality.
There was no Russian collusion.
No one ever called Nazis 'very fine people'.
Hunter's laptop was never 'tradecraft'. It was ALWAYS authentic and real.
Everything sounds completely obvious and true to you inside your version of events, and that’s exactly how it works. The other side’s got its own list that feels just as airtight to them.
I’m not saying both are right. I'm not saying both are wrong. I’m saying people don’t even share the same definition of “true” anymore. Once that happens, it’s not debate anymore, it’s just two groups defending their news feeds.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:09 pm to northshorebamaman
northshorebamaman
You need to calm down
You need to calm down
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:13 pm to northshorebamaman
Unlike the Left though, I can admit something is objectively bad or whatever, and it still be preferable to something else. The Left will not yield on this issue. And it goes well beyond "The Internet". It's a psychological construct that existed probably for as long a there have been people.
Perfectly demonstrated from the show 3 Body Problem, regarding the CCP's cultural revolution.
IYKYK
Perfectly demonstrated from the show 3 Body Problem, regarding the CCP's cultural revolution.
IYKYK
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:13 pm to Mushroom1968
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northshorebamaman
You need to calm down
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:21 pm to northshorebamaman
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The internet has essentially split reality
quote:
It’s meant to be a discussion about perception and how identical information can produce opposite interpretations.
There's that...
Plus the dozens of interpretations and nuance in between.
Yet, there are also third, fourth and fifth sources of info-unveiled to be consider outside the mainstream (that also may or may not be true.)
But no matter what, consensus-manipulation is going to win control over which narrative is chosen as "truth" by institutions, "Influencers" and Bots (imo) -- which is how we'll always end up which an 15-85 ratio of Awake to Zombies.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:21 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:That’s actually a solid reference,and it works both ways.
Unlike the Left though, I can admit something is objectively bad or whatever, and it still be preferable to something else. The Left will not yield on this issue. And it goes well beyond "The Internet". It's a psychological construct that existed probably for as long a there have been people.
Perfectly demonstrated from the show 3 Body Problem, regarding the CCP's cultural revolution.
The scene isn’t really about left or right, it’s about what happens when conviction turns into identity. Once you’re that far in, repentance isn’t even part of your vocabulary anymore.
You find that same energy anywhere certainty replaces curiosity.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:35 pm to EphesianArmor
quote:I don't have anything to add or take away but I wanted to thank you for a thoughtful contribution and let you know I've found many of your posts thought provoking.
There's that...
Plus the dozens of interpretations and nuance in between.
Yet, there are also third, fourth and fifth sources of info-unveiled to be consider outside the mainstream (that also may or may not be true.)
But no matter what, consensus-manipulation is going to win control over which narrative is chosen as "truth" by institutions, "Influencers" and Bots (imo) -- which is how we'll always end up which an 15-85 ratio of Awake to Zombies.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:41 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:we have lost the ability to admit when we are wrong because the rules of evidence no longer apply
Once you’re that far in, repentance isn’t even part of your vocabulary anymore.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:47 pm to northshorebamaman
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The scene isn’t really about left or right, it’s about what happens when conviction turns into identity
Well, I agree, in part. It's communists trying to adhere to greater and greater demands of purity.
Today's left are acting very much the same, and yes, they're reading from the exact came playbook as those kids from the CCP.
There's no response from the Right which doesn't get framed as 'both sides do it'. It's absolute rubbish. Today's Left went off the rails in their persecution of him and his supporters. Anyone who scoffs at that idea , or the mere mention that yes, once side is wrong, and the other side is undeniably RIGHT are trapped by the very things you claim 'both sides do'.
It's not both sides.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 4:49 pm
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