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re: The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs

Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:17 pm to
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And you missed The median price of homes currently listed in Nashville is $339


That means you have a lot of sub 339k homes.

Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
825 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:20 pm to
I am a "millennial" who owns a small healthcare business. I employ 14 people, about 2/3 millennial and 1/3 "boomers." The boomers complain about the dumbest shite and act like they are above doing the little things. I have much less trouble with my millennial employees who have half the experience.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49536 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:20 pm to
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Meanwhile, if you graduate in a trade, engineering, or construction, and prove to possible employers you can

1) pass a drug test
2) show up to work on time
3) move for the job if need be
4) would be willing to start off working outside

They are literally throwing job offers worth great money at anyone with a pulse.


Meh. I graduated in EE in May '15. Started looking for jobs 3 or 4 months prior. Didn't start an engineering job until January 16. Applied to tons of jobs all over the southeast/midwest and had a good GPA. And I don't make great money. It will probably take me a about a decade before my salary hits 6 figures.

I know that I was a bit of an outlier with the long wait to get a job, but I think that STEM = easy to get a great paying job is overblown.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114175 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:20 pm to
That's because their parents have done everything for them. Their parents want to give them the life they didn't have, which isn't a good thing if it isn't done right. When I was in high school, it seems like most people drove old cars and was just happy to have something to get them from point A to point B.. These kids get brand new cars and don't want to drive something "embarrassing".

You know what needs to happen? Once everyone graduates from HS (if they drop out, then when they turn 18), there needs to be some type of two year life training they have to attend. When they leave home to go to this, they do not get to take anything with them except whatever clothes they are wearing. for about a month they do a boot camp type thing then they are put in situations in which they have to figure how to get out of, etc.. Basically get the pussy out of them.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64508 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:21 pm to
The boomers are in their 70's so yeah they probably bitch more.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40309 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:22 pm to
As a 31 year old Millennial I cannot implore now more than ever to pick your partner in life wisely.

We are now in a 2+ household income environment.

Marry up or equal and for fricks sake do not knock up some broke arse brawd and be stuck.

Make your household income range target around 125-150k and you are golden man.

Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:23 pm to
You mean you can't get a good paying job with a gender studies degree?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40309 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:24 pm to
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I know that I was a bit of an outlier with the long wait to get a job, but I think that STEM = easy to get a great paying job is overblown.


You are an outlier and wrong at the same time.

I had a job offer before I walked across the stage in the spring of 2015. After bonus this year ill pull in over 80k.

BSEE, Telecom Industry.

Almost all my classmates who graduated had a job offer before graduation or a month after.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
825 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:25 pm to
Maybe not boomers then, whatever the generation of 50-55 is.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:28 pm to
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Most of them want to start moving up the corporate ladder - but they are blocked by the 55 and 60 year olds who just realized they need to start saving for retirement.
and as a manager of one of these said 55 year old, I am secretly happy that this has occurred. I get a 30 year experienced employee for just a higher cost compared to a new hire with zero experience.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:28 pm to
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I had a job offer before I walked across the stage in the spring of 2015. After bonus this year ill pull in over 80k.

BSEE, Telecom Industry.

Almost all my classmates who graduated had a job offer before graduation or a month after.



To be fair.. 2015-Now has had a pretty decent job market.

Nothing at all like the shitshow we saw for the half dozen years before
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:29 pm to
I walked across the stage already signed with a company and having turned down several offers. I think the lowest base salary I was offered was $56ishk and it was in a program where you got something like a 25% pay increase after a year of training/qualifying. The highest was hourly and with (what was going to be plenty) overtime was going to be about $100k

BS, MechE. $56k the first year out of school is not chump change and I was not a top tier student. The market is tougher now than when I got out but the opportunities are great. They definitely put you in a position to bury yourself in house and car debt pretty quickly
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3267 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:30 pm to
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Meh. I graduated in EE in May '15. Started looking for jobs 3 or 4 months prior. Didn't start an engineering job until January 16. Applied to tons of jobs all over the southeast/midwest and had a good GPA. And I don't make great money. It will probably take me a about a decade before my salary hits 6 figures.


Well, no offense, but anecdotal evidence is bs.

I have 5 close friends, 3 of which (including me) graduated in CM. One makes 80k 3 years out. I started at 60 and 3 months in am now making 65k. The other graduates this fall and already signed an offer letter starting at 57.5k.

2 buddies in engineering, one in MECH, and the other in EE.
The mechanical guy is doing the worst out of all of us. It took him 2 months after graduation to find a gig and 2 years in he's at 70k.
The EE just graduated and started at 28/hr on his tools with the same company he interned with thru 2 years of school.
My last buddy graduated 2 years ago and hasn't been able to keep a job. He's now on job #3 after getting popped for a failed piss test at his first job, and walking out on his 2nd job after getting into it with his boss. He is definitely the one with issues out the group.

My point being, if you graduate from the engineering college at LSU, unless you had 0 internship or drug issues, it's probably you, not the job market.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40309 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:30 pm to
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To be fair.. 2015-Now has had a pretty decent job market.

Nothing at all like the shitshow we saw for the half dozen years before



True but im not sure if Telecom/Semi-Conductor/Power had any issues in that same scope.

Were talking Engineering jobs here. I don't remember outside of my company actually downsizing or laying off during the recession.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64508 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:31 pm to
50 Tiger, will you trench in some fiber in Charlotte for me next week? I need some 2in stuck and strung inside too.

Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40309 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:32 pm to
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BS, MechE. $56k the first year out of school is not chump change and I was not a top tier student. The market is tougher now than when I got out but the opportunities are great. They definitely put you in a position to bury yourself in house and car debt pretty quickly



Life changes quickly once you are in industry brother!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:32 pm to
3-4 months before graduation is also wayyyyyyyy too late to start looking if you're expecting to have options. The top tier kids start getting plucked up in the fall semester of senior year.

There is no replacement for time in the market.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40309 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:32 pm to
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50 Tiger, will you trench in some fiber in Charlotte for me next week? I need some 2in stuck and strung inside too.


Lol we pay contractors to do that shite.

I work in a lab developing the actual RAN network
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66555 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:33 pm to
Bunch of old dickbags in here who think millenials are just lazy.

What they don't understand is after college you don't just roll into decent full time jobs. Now you roll into a couple of years of unpaid internships while repaying the grossly high college debts. You're starting underneath water instead of even just treading it.

Then when you actually make full time money everything else is way more expensive and the cost of living has outpaced the paychecks.

Not to mention its harder now to build credit because all of our baby boomer parents scared off the banks with their inability to pay off their debts.

Did i mention how more jobs are going the way of the machine, increasing competition and making it more difficult to find and keep jobs than it use to be.

I have a fantastic job so I'm lucky. But I understand the struggles.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 6:34 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:33 pm to
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That means you have a lot of sub 339k homes.


And an equal amount of homes above 339k
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