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re: The GA-400/I-285 interchange in Atlanta

Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7624 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:12 pm to
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The Outer Perimeter project would've been another sprawl-generating machine (basically like I-285 but 25 years later), especially since developers and politicians were buying up land near proposed interchanges in order to get rich. Even GDOT at the time viewed the project as an economic development generator rather than a traffic reliever.

It absolutely would've made it worse.


Worse than what?

People were already there, and many more have come without a corridor that would have allowed many trucks to traverse between 75 and 85 without going into Atlanta.

You must have been one of the ones who said no. So not building it accomplished what exactly, less traffic, less growth?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31657 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:18 pm to
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Worse than what?

People were already there, and many more have come without a corridor that would have allowed many trucks to traverse between 75 and 85 without going into Atlanta.


It would've been clogged up with development much like I-285 became from about 1985 onward. If it were just about being a true bypass for trucks, they could've just restricted it to interchanges at the freeways only.

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You must have been one of the ones who said no. So not building it accomplished what exactly, less traffic, less growth?


Compared to what it would've been, yes.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7624 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:22 pm to
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Compared to what it would've been, yes.


And you can see into the future because....

That's nonsense. Thanks for making it worse by sticking your head in the sand and stopping people from addressing the problem.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9980 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:47 pm to
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GA-400


What dumb arse thought it would be good to run the MARTA lines in the median and build stations in the middle of the road with pedestrian walk ways to connect to the stations?


That is like Vegas, the Monorail line ends at the MGM Grand, but the airport terminal is about a mile away. With about 2 miles of track, they can build a station at the airport connecting the strip and the airport terminal. Now the car rental terminal is all the way on the otherside of the airport, that is about as screwed up as New Orleans.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:53 pm to
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And I bet most people who do that don't have a Peach Pass.


Most of them do not. But after seeing what the tag cameras actually catch when they erroneously sent me a toll violation in the mail, they're lucky if they ever get a dime from anyone. You couldn't make out anything other than a white Camry (my car wasn't a Camry and was black). The numbers on the tag were illegible, so someone just randomly associated with my tag number and sent me the bill.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31657 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:10 pm to
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That's nonsense. Thanks for making it worse by sticking your head in the sand and stopping people from addressing the problem.


I didn’t stop anything, I was in high school when the project was killed
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31657 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:16 pm to
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What dumbass thought it would be good to run the MARTA lines in the median and build stations in the middle of the road with pedestrian walk ways to connect to the stations?


That was a good idea. It was an easy way to get MARTA up to Sandy Springs and a rare example of cooperation between them and GDOT.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:01 pm to
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What dumb arse thought it would be good to run the MARTA lines in the median and build stations in the middle of the road with pedestrian walk ways to connect to the stations?


I actually like that design. Chicago does the same thing with the CTA. Marta needs to go further north to Alpharetta.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9980 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:46 am to
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That was a good idea. It was an easy way to get MARTA up to Sandy Springs and a rare example of cooperation between them and GDOT.


The concept is there, but you are also limiting your expansion potential on 400, the rail lines take up the road median which could have been used for HOT lanes and all the extra station infrastructure needed to get passengers from a parking area to the station. Not to mention the extra steps needed to make the stations handicap accessible via ramps or elevators.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31657 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:59 am to
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The concept is there, but you are also limiting your expansion potential on 400, the rail lines take up the road median which could have been used for HOT lanes and all the extra station infrastructure needed to get passengers from a parking area to the station.


The Buckhead station was a one-off, any rail extension north to Windward would be on either side of 400.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21044 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 9:13 am to
I don’t know that I want Marta to be one stop from Forsyth county.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31657 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:21 am to
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I don’t know that I want Marta to be one stop from Forsyth county.



If the locals want a hockey arena so bad, MARTA needs to have a stop inside Forsyth County.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:37 am to
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I don’t know that I want Marta to be one stop from Forsyth county.

Jesus Christ.

If you want hockey back here, then it's gonna happen.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
9889 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:06 pm to
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That money would be better used expanding MARTA.




MARTA is so bad people who live in the city where it actually has service don't/won't use it. MARTA isn't ever going to go out to the burbs nor does it need to. Fix it in the city first. Its one big inefficient mess.
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