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re: the Florida python problem
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:53 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:53 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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wild hog problem
The sows make good eating, the boars not so much.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:56 pm to Auburn1968
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Some snakes like rat snakes eat other snakes including venomous ones so they might be good to have eating baby pythons before they get too big.
I'm just a simple man with a simple 7 iron. I am nowhere near qualified to make a judgement call on the snakes lineage. After all, there will be plenty of time for more learned men to make those determinations once the snake is dead.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:59 pm to Auburn1968
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I think the only way to decimate their population is to bait them with thousands of mice, rats and rabbits with Tylenol collars. Tylenol is a strong poison for snakes.
There's another, more fun way. Catch all the possums and raccoons you can find. Fit them with GPS collars. Plot their daily/nightly coordinates. They will lead you to python nests where they are preying on the eggs. Destroy the nests and eggs that remain. Continue hunting and killing snakes in the meantime.
This is actually being done, though I don't know to what scale.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:02 pm to Basura Blanco
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Anyone releasing any snake into the wild needs to be shot
Cats, too. Hell, let's just say that anyone caught releasing any animal they acquired as a pet into the wild should be shot.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:02 pm to Auburn1968
This is a long and very detailed analysis of how far these pythons can spread. He points out the flaw in this map's methodology.
How Far North Will Florida's Pythons Spread? | Invasive Biogeography
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRTwbs95uA
How Far North Will Florida's Pythons Spread? | Invasive Biogeography

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRTwbs95uA
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:09 pm to LSU82BILL
20 ft and 400 lbs???
frick that….. nope nope nope…
frick that….. nope nope nope…
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:12 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:Thanks to all you climate change deniers and burning fossil fuels
Those bastards will be all over S. Louisiana before long.
/sarcasm
No, they can't survive the winter outside of south Florida. Even brief cold snaps can kill them.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:13 pm to Schmelly
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Waaaay past too late for that
Is it though?
Like the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the next best time is today.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:15 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Gen X, this one’s probably our fault.
I concur.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:16 pm to Auburn1968
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This is a long and very detailed analysis of how far these pythons can spread. He points out the flaw in this map's methodology.
How Far North Will Florida's Pythons Spread? | Invasive Biogeography
Nature is unrelenting. It works in slow motion most of the time, but it never stops. Native Florida ecosystems are being destroyed by a host of non-native species. First, the introduced species will pressure the native species. They will out breed and out hunt them. Resources will dwindle, the weaker of the species will die off, and the stronger ones will push into territories with more food and less competition. They'll slowly acclimate while the cycle continues. They'll keep going until they reach an environment that is just absolutely not conducive to life for their species.
This will all take time, but it is a constant, steady progression.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:26 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Nature is unrelenting. It works in slow motion most of the time, but it never stops. Native Florida ecosystems are being destroyed by a host of non-native species. First, the introduced species will pressure the native species. They will out breed and out hunt them. Resources will dwindle, the weaker of the species will die off, and the stronger ones will push into territories with more food and less competition. They'll slowly acclimate while the cycle continues. They'll keep going until they reach an environment that is just absolutely not conducive to life for their species.
This will all take time, but it is a constant, steady progression.
Sometimes it has to be treated like a lake that has invasive fish that are killing off all of the native fish and the whole thing is poisoned so it can be restocked later.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:27 pm to Auburn1968
If they have trouble reproducing at 60F, that map is bullshite
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:32 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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If they have trouble reproducing at 60F, that map is bullshite
That map was comparing the average temperature and python range in America with that of India. The problem with that is that even in our southern regions, we get some significant sub-freezing days while India does not. Freezing weather is generally deadly for pythons.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:37 pm to Auburn1968
It’s actually caused by Hurricane Andrew I think. They can clearly live in South Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana and will hear soon enough.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:48 pm to Jim Rockford
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Those bastards will be all over S. Louisiana before long.
Only small, dead ones. First continuing hard freeze would get them. Pretty sure they are a tropical species.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:51 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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This and the wild hog problem are fascinating. We could solve world hunger killing and cooking these things.
Well under communism we’d prob have to set up markets to sell wild animals so we don’t starve to death.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:16 pm to Auburn1968
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think the only way to decimate their population is to bait them with thousands of mice, rats and rabbits with Tylenol collars. Tylenol is a strong poison for snakes.
That'd end up killing a bunch of native species as well, considering pythons aren't the only animals that eat mice.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:23 pm to Funky Tide 8
You are correct sir!!!!! Snakes clear out the rodents, insects, and other snakes while you are sleeping.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:25 pm to Auburn1968
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That map was comparing the average temperature and python range in America with that of India. The problem with that is that even in our southern regions, we get some significant sub-freezing days while India does not. Freezing weather is generally deadly for pythons.
Even below 60 degrees they get so lethargic that predators can easily target them.
They may get to south Louisiana if someone moves them there, but they won’t make it very far past the first winter. It gets below 40 degrees routinely and below freezing at least a dozen times every year.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:27 pm to Auburn1968
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I think the only way to decimate their population is to bait them with thousands of mice, rats and rabbits with Tylenol collars. Tylenol is a strong poison for snakes.
That would kill the native snakes too. Not a great idea.
That may be where we are with the Everglades but not in Louisiana. It gets too cold during the winter for these things to survive here. And they are too large for most of the natural shelters that are around.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 6:30 pm
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