Started By
Message

re: the Florida python problem

Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68899 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

wild hog problem


The sows make good eating, the boars not so much.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10580 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Some snakes like rat snakes eat other snakes including venomous ones so they might be good to have eating baby pythons before they get too big.


I'm just a simple man with a simple 7 iron. I am nowhere near qualified to make a judgement call on the snakes lineage. After all, there will be plenty of time for more learned men to make those determinations once the snake is dead.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65963 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

I think the only way to decimate their population is to bait them with thousands of mice, rats and rabbits with Tylenol collars. Tylenol is a strong poison for snakes.

There's another, more fun way. Catch all the possums and raccoons you can find. Fit them with GPS collars. Plot their daily/nightly coordinates. They will lead you to python nests where they are preying on the eggs. Destroy the nests and eggs that remain. Continue hunting and killing snakes in the meantime.

This is actually being done, though I don't know to what scale.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:00 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65963 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Anyone releasing any snake into the wild needs to be shot

Cats, too. Hell, let's just say that anyone caught releasing any animal they acquired as a pet into the wild should be shot.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23022 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:02 pm to
This is a long and very detailed analysis of how far these pythons can spread. He points out the flaw in this map's methodology.

How Far North Will Florida's Pythons Spread? | Invasive Biogeography



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRTwbs95uA
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213280 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:09 pm to
20 ft and 400 lbs???

frick that….. nope nope nope…
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23818 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Those bastards will be all over S. Louisiana before long.
Thanks to all you climate change deniers and burning fossil fuels

/sarcasm


No, they can't survive the winter outside of south Florida. Even brief cold snaps can kill them.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9116 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Waaaay past too late for that


Is it though?

Like the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the next best time is today.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34009 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

Gen X, this one’s probably our fault.

I concur.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65963 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

This is a long and very detailed analysis of how far these pythons can spread. He points out the flaw in this map's methodology.

How Far North Will Florida's Pythons Spread? | Invasive Biogeography

Nature is unrelenting. It works in slow motion most of the time, but it never stops. Native Florida ecosystems are being destroyed by a host of non-native species. First, the introduced species will pressure the native species. They will out breed and out hunt them. Resources will dwindle, the weaker of the species will die off, and the stronger ones will push into territories with more food and less competition. They'll slowly acclimate while the cycle continues. They'll keep going until they reach an environment that is just absolutely not conducive to life for their species.

This will all take time, but it is a constant, steady progression.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23022 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Nature is unrelenting. It works in slow motion most of the time, but it never stops. Native Florida ecosystems are being destroyed by a host of non-native species. First, the introduced species will pressure the native species. They will out breed and out hunt them. Resources will dwindle, the weaker of the species will die off, and the stronger ones will push into territories with more food and less competition. They'll slowly acclimate while the cycle continues. They'll keep going until they reach an environment that is just absolutely not conducive to life for their species.

This will all take time, but it is a constant, steady progression.


Sometimes it has to be treated like a lake that has invasive fish that are killing off all of the native fish and the whole thing is poisoned so it can be restocked later.

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
14076 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:27 pm to
If they have trouble reproducing at 60F, that map is bullshite
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23022 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

If they have trouble reproducing at 60F, that map is bullshite


That map was comparing the average temperature and python range in America with that of India. The problem with that is that even in our southern regions, we get some significant sub-freezing days while India does not. Freezing weather is generally deadly for pythons.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45904 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:37 pm to
It’s actually caused by Hurricane Andrew I think. They can clearly live in South Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana and will hear soon enough.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6092 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Those bastards will be all over S. Louisiana before long.


Only small, dead ones. First continuing hard freeze would get them. Pretty sure they are a tropical species.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78852 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

This and the wild hog problem are fascinating. We could solve world hunger killing and cooking these things.


Well under communism we’d prob have to set up markets to sell wild animals so we don’t starve to death.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54829 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

think the only way to decimate their population is to bait them with thousands of mice, rats and rabbits with Tylenol collars. Tylenol is a strong poison for snakes.


That'd end up killing a bunch of native species as well, considering pythons aren't the only animals that eat mice.
Posted by caill430
Da Dirty Dell
Member since Jul 2005
1222 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:23 pm to
You are correct sir!!!!! Snakes clear out the rodents, insects, and other snakes while you are sleeping.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25947 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

That map was comparing the average temperature and python range in America with that of India. The problem with that is that even in our southern regions, we get some significant sub-freezing days while India does not. Freezing weather is generally deadly for pythons.


Even below 60 degrees they get so lethargic that predators can easily target them.

They may get to south Louisiana if someone moves them there, but they won’t make it very far past the first winter. It gets below 40 degrees routinely and below freezing at least a dozen times every year.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25947 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

I think the only way to decimate their population is to bait them with thousands of mice, rats and rabbits with Tylenol collars. Tylenol is a strong poison for snakes.


That would kill the native snakes too. Not a great idea.

That may be where we are with the Everglades but not in Louisiana. It gets too cold during the winter for these things to survive here. And they are too large for most of the natural shelters that are around.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 6:30 pm
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram