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re: The dumbest of the dumb, antivaxxer chronicles three kids getting whooping cough
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:10 pm to NastyTiger
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:10 pm to NastyTiger
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Ok, then why would one clinic differ from another in regards to quantity and timing of said boosters?
Probably they are using vaccines produced by different companies. Companies have different processes of producing these vaccines... so again, based on their research data on the levels of antibodies stimulated by their vaccines determines the number of boosters necessary to achieve protection.
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:36 pm to thetempleowl
She removed this part from her original post. She also changed "Turned purple" to "draining pale" or something like that.
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During this time, however, I received a very stern “talking to” from my father. He’s a veterinarian and has been for just shy of 40 years. ( While holding ZZZZZ, he said to me, “Heather, there is a time and place for every thing and the time to go get an antibiotic is now. It may be that your pride has got you confused. I have watched you over the years heal ailments that I never imagined possible with natural remedies. I still wouldn’t believe the stories, if I had not witnessed you going through the process. However, I have also witnessed medicine save many lives over the years. I would hate to see you make a poor choice with your children at the expense.”
HOLY shite… What? Did he honestly believe I was sitting there doing nothing? Couldn’t he see I was taking all the care in the world trying to make this work and heal them naturally? My heart broke. Tears streamed down my face. I grabbed my baby, turned my back to him and walked away. Did I know what I was doing? Had I gone too far? I headed to the bedroom to nurse her and myself to sleep.
I called my mentor and the founder of my Naturopathy school to gain yet another naturopathic perspective. She had nothing but good things to say. She once again boosted my morale. It was all I needed to hold strong over the holiday season
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:44 pm to prplhze2000
gee, an omission by a fearful poster to set up the attack...
...I'm shocked...
they're a certified MOB, the only thing missing is the rope
...I'm shocked...
they're a certified MOB, the only thing missing is the rope
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:52 pm to thetempleowl
Vaccinate? pshhh. I dont want retarded kids.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:07 pm to retired trucker
Huh?
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:22 pm to prplhze2000
The stupid......it hurts......
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:26 pm to retired trucker
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I'm shocked..
Here is what's shocking...
The actions by this delusional psychopath mom is not merely against vaccines, but also against simple medical science.
Simply put, when your child has pertussis... the doctor is not going to give the child the pertussis vaccine... it's too late!! The treatment of active pertussis is with a 5 day course of Zithromax!!! A common antibiotic that most of us had before...
Thus, her refusal to seek treatment for her kids is not because of her stance against vaccines, she refused to help her seriously and dangerously ill children based on her own pride that she somehow 'knows' more about this disease process than years of empirical research... that's delusional to a psychotic level.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:39 pm to Lokistale
y'all are seriously rabid about your position, even tho you are supposedly protected
even with the doctor surprised at her successes, which you couldn't even mention
bunch of scared azzed communists...locked up, as prisoners in their own minds
communists don't believe in free will ,and prefer to jam their beliefs down others throats ...the modern inquisition
even with the doctor surprised at her successes, which you couldn't even mention
bunch of scared azzed communists...locked up, as prisoners in their own minds
communists don't believe in free will ,and prefer to jam their beliefs down others throats ...the modern inquisition
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:41 pm to Lokistale
Are you a doctor?
Because I received Zithromax at an urgent care clinic and it did nothing. Then I went to my internist and he told me it was whooping cough and there's no treatment but I could try another round of Zithromax and some steroids. He also gave me some cough meds. I coughed my lungs up for another month until it went away on its own
Because I received Zithromax at an urgent care clinic and it did nothing. Then I went to my internist and he told me it was whooping cough and there's no treatment but I could try another round of Zithromax and some steroids. He also gave me some cough meds. I coughed my lungs up for another month until it went away on its own
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:44 pm to prplhze2000
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I headed to the bedroom to nurse her and myself to sleep.
If I can ask this mom a simple question: Why are you breastfeeding? As we all know, one of the benefits of breastfeeding is the transfer of maternal antibodies to the baby. Well that's not the 'natural'... these antibodies are not naturally produced by the baby's own body... amiright?
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:49 pm to Paige
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. Then I went to my internist and he told me it was whooping cough and there's no treatment
Not the case with any kids I've cared for at work with it. They are all usually on zithromax.
ETA: Maybe he meant that there isn't anything that is gonna make the cough go away all at once?
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:01 am to Paige
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Because I received Zithromax at an urgent care clinic and it did nothing. Then I went to my internist and he told me it was whooping cough and there's no treatment but I could try another round of Zithromax and some steroids.
Simple answer... zithromax is the recommended first-line treatment for pertussis. The reason that you didn't get better... pertussis does a lot damage/inflammation to your airways. So even after the infection is treated, it will take time for everything to eventually heal... thus the symptoms of pertussis last much longer than the actual infection.
The other answer... did you really have pertussis? I mean were you checked... did they stick a long swab up your nose and send the swab to a lab to get tested? Some doctors will tell you that you have pertussis based on symptoms alone... but a viral bronchitis/bronchiolitis can have the same symptoms... (and as you know, antibiotics does nothing to viruses)
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:04 am to lsunurse
I just read about it and I think I remember him saying it was probably too late, I'd been coughing two months
Looks like if you catch it early antibiotics can work. Wow this mom is such a bitch for watching her kids in that position and not getting them treatment
I wish she'd have gotten it. She's all poor me having to be up all night listening to them cough and clean up their puke. You feel like you're dying all day long. Every coughing fit turns into suffocating and throwing up on yourself. frick her
Looks like if you catch it early antibiotics can work. Wow this mom is such a bitch for watching her kids in that position and not getting them treatment
I wish she'd have gotten it. She's all poor me having to be up all night listening to them cough and clean up their puke. You feel like you're dying all day long. Every coughing fit turns into suffocating and throwing up on yourself. frick her
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:07 am to Lokistale
No I don't remember being tested
But it was pretty textbook when I read about it. I don't think he was wrong
But it was pretty textbook when I read about it. I don't think he was wrong
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:08 am to Paige
What's really shitty about all the antivaxxers that don't want to get their kids vaccinated.....those idiotic assholes were likely vaccinated as kids so they don't necessarily have to worry about themselves catching anything. Seems pretty easy to preach about something when IT WON'T EVEN AFFECT YOUR HEALTH DIPSHIT
For all we know...that mother got a tdap as a teenager making herself immune.
For all we know...that mother got a tdap as a teenager making herself immune.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:11 am to lsunurse
I was thinking that exact thing while reading her post Even if you're an anti vaccine freak, when you see your kids suffering, how the hell can you not try to help them?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:18 am to Paige
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Even if you're an anti vaccine freak, when you see your kids suffering, how the hell can you not try to help them?
I hate when we get some poor kid admitted that has nutjob antivaxxer parents. Doctors usually immediately have to order lots of various labs to try and determine what is making the kid sick(if it's say a toddler with high fevers and vague symptoms) because the child wasn't vaccinated. Meaning us nurses have to poke the child over and over for blood draws and subject them to that. I've had parents get mad at us cause of having to poke their child several times and I just have to bite my tongue and not snap at them "well if you were not a fricking moron and vaccinated this poor child they wouldn't need to be testing for all of this"
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:19 am to thetempleowl
The Poliboard's lord and savior, TRUMP, had this to say about vaccinations:
Fully expect people to brush this under the carpet. Heck, who needs a scientifically literate POTUS? It's only 2015
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"Autism has become an epidemic. Twenty-five years ago, 35 years ago, you look at the statistics, not even close. It has gotten totally out of control," Trump said. "I am totally in favor of vaccines. But I want smaller doses over a longer period of time. Same exact amount, but you take this little beautiful baby, and you pump—I mean, it looks just like it's meant for a horse, not for a child, and we've had so many instances, people that work for me."
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Just the other day, 2 years old, 2½ years old, a child, a beautiful child went to have the vaccine, and came back, and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic.
Fully expect people to brush this under the carpet. Heck, who needs a scientifically literate POTUS? It's only 2015
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:33 am to Mullet Flap
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But I want smaller doses over a longer period of time. Same exact amount, but you take this little beautiful baby, and you pump—I mean, it looks just like it's meant for a horse, not for a child,
If Trump would just ask any pediatrician or a representative from AAP or CDC, they would have told him... 'Request granted!!'
Vaccines now are very different from vaccines a generation ago... with the advancement of manufacturing and medical technology, vaccine makers have been able to removed most of the impurities and preservatives from current vaccines and they are able to produce the same immune response with a lot less vaccines.
Thus, just one of the vaccine that Trump had when he was a kid had more impurities/preservative and vaccines than all of the vaccines put together for that particular round.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:38 am to thetempleowl
I kinda hope that woman gets polio
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