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re: The drug that helped Jimmy Carter get 'cancer-free' is a breakthrough

Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:28 pm to
Yeah my aunt was Cancer free last year, she passed in September.

Cancer scares the shite out of me, it and Alzheimer's are my biggest fears, and both run in the family.

Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86142 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:29 pm to
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All goes to prove my theory that cancer (most cancers) has been cured but the masses won't get that kind of treatment until they figure out how to solve the big money business of cancer treatment etc etc.

I knew a husband who lost his wife to cancer. He went off down this conspiracy road. He would tell everyone that would listen that drug companies had found the cure long ago, but they won't release it because of the loss in revenue. They would rather millions die.

Honestly, he started to come across as tin foil type. I think after he got over her loss, years later, he realized how crazy he was sounding.

No offense.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13494 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:31 pm to
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I hate to tell you this, but I've known several people that were deemed "cancer free" after a course of drugs/chemo/radiation. In every single one, they remained cancer free for a while, then it returned with a vengeance and they were dead within months.

Cancer free doesn't mean much, and it pains me to say that.
Yep. If you read what Carter said carefully, you'll notice that he's not being declared cured, they're just saying that they can find no signs of cancer anymore. It's almost certainly still there, spread around his body, and it will eventually become detectable again.

edit: assuming he lives long enough. He could die from other causes before that happens.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:32 pm to
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Steve Jobs died because he was a dumb arse, not because of lack of resources. His variant of pancreatic cancer was treatable yet he decided to shun modern medicine in favor of holistic treatments.


Jobs had a variation of islet cell carcinoma, the preferred method of treatment is surgery which Jobs had 9 months after diagnosis. He also had a liver transplant, so that is not exactly shunning modern medicine. There is a possibility his outcome might have been better if the surgery was done earlier, but he lived eight years beyond diagnosis, even with optimum treatment less than 40% of all islet cell patients survive that long.

LINK

Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13494 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:32 pm to
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All goes to prove my theory that cancer (most cancers) has been cured but the masses won't get that kind of treatment until they figure out how to solve the big money business of cancer treatment etc etc.

That's fricking dumb. Offense intended.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
39064 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:36 pm to
When I finished "treatment", I was told you are in remission. I was never told I was cancer free, fwiw
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58368 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:38 pm to
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$12,500 a month


That's pretty reasonable actually. It cures fricking cancer.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:43 pm to
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in remission


That's key. Work with cancer patients daily and my mother in law was one of the strangest cases I've seen. Cervical cancer treated successfully and 15 years later had recurrent cervical cancer. Didn't last long the second time.
Anytime it can't be cut out before it spreads, it is very hard to rid the body of it. Ever.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
9937 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:54 pm to
"Remission with no discernible signs," was what I was told. Asked one of the docs why the longwinded way of saying it and he said it's all about CYA these days.
Posted by LSUFANDS
Denham Springs, La.
Member since Dec 2006
1455 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:01 pm to
Lost my Dad the same way back in 1986. It was the rooted kind. Couldn't get it all.
Posted by bamaphan13
Member since Jan 2011
1238 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:13 pm to
Dad is going through Pancreatic cancer now and only one chemo option left he starts next week.

A clinical trial with immunotherapy drugs are his next step. The success they have had with certain types is good news and trials have started with all solid tumor type cancers.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:21 pm to
Tell that to Steve Jobs.

Edit: someone beat me to it.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2869 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:30 pm to
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Dad is going through Pancreatic cancer now and only one chemo option left he starts next


Best of luck to your Dad. Pancreatic cancer is tough, good to hear some of the drug treatments have been successful.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63307 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:35 pm to
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I almost wish they would never tell a family the person is cancer free.


agreed...I know that it is human nature to give people any thread of good news that you can, but that shite seems to be misleading in a lot of cases...
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:38 pm to
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the masses won't get that kind of treatment until they figure out how to solve the big money business of cancer treatment


You do know it costs tons of time and money to research these cures.

You want the private sector to spend hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars developing a cure for something and then just give it away for free?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:11 pm to
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Basically, if you're rich, you're ok.


Patrick Swayzee would like to say hello, if he could.

or

Patrick Swayzee from Ghost says hello.
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
11263 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:52 pm to
That's huge news. I'm not an OT baller but I don't care about that price tag with something like this.
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