re: The Daily Show's host has great speech on gun control.

Sir/ma'am,, it's ok to be stupid, but, please do some research and quit proving it.
I've asked you to do that on numerous occasions, I'm done.

Have a wonderful crime free life, call the cops or HRC if you need anything..

quote:

---

st graders gunned down? Sheet happens.
Kids gunned down in an inner city park? Sheet happens.

---

It's a bad but understandable reaction to what is rightly seen as an attempt to use emotion and tragedy to advance a political agenda.

quote:

---

No, no it won't and you don't have a shred of credible evidence to support your naive, ignorance-based statement.

---

Here is a small fact for your naïve, ignorance-based statement.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the background check system has prevented more than 2 million guns from getting into the wrong hands.

quote:

---

If I have to go through a more extensive background check then I'm okay with that. I will still get a gun because my background is clean.

---

I bet Kennedy thought he was clean too. The idiot said you shouldn't get a gun if you're on the no-fly list.

The fact you can't see the abuse of power and lack of due process in that is baffling.

What's baffling is quite a few people in this thread believe just because something was stated in the Constitution then it should carry on forever. I'm all for bearing arms but sometimes the processes need to be tweaked as technology and the world evolves.

quote:

---

It's a bad but understandable reaction to what is rightly seen as an attempt to use emotion and tragedy to advance a political agenda.

---

It's a bad and unreasonable reaction rooted in fear mongering.

Please tell us what is this secret political agenda that the president has been working on. Is he coming to take your guns? Because if it is, then you better lock them up since you know he is an emperor or king or dictator or communist or marxist or -insert boogey man conservative word here-

quote:

---

3. Increase mental health treatment and reporting to the background check system.

---

What makes you think the gov can do anything effective in the way of mental health treatment? Have you read the stories from the VA?

Who decides what gets reported? And what items get reported? Your whole file? ICD-9 codes? Do you just get red-flagged like the no-fly list, based on someone's whim? Is there a second opinion? What's your recourse if a doc just wants to put a flag and report you? You're aware that the AMA has become a very political organization and leans heavily to the left?

You know what such a move will do? It will concretely persuade hundreds of thousands of people to never go to a mental health clinic. Does that sound healthy to you? What will you say when that happens and suicides increase, homelessness increases, and the overall burden of minor but easily treatable psychological problems becomes a major issue? And don't forget, there will be ripple effects to malpractice litigation & insurance and doctors will be forced to red-flag someone though there's truly no reason to do so, just so they can stay out of the crosshairs at trial. And with Obamacare, what do you think the "standard of care" will become? Refer, report, red-flag.

None of this is paranoia. It's empirically confirmed throughout all of history. Give a government the latitude for abuse and it will most certainly use it. We have to develop better solutions, that's all there is to it.

One last thing, medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death in the U.S. Do you really want that community deciding on reporting people, particularly given all of the above?

quote:

---

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the background check system has prevented more than 2 million guns from getting into the wrong hands.

---

Only about 60% of those rejected were due to felony convictions, drug addiction etc. That means many were wrongly rejected.

How many of these people rejected would have gone on to commit a crime with the weapon? Do you know the answer to that question? Of course not. No one does.

Drunk driving deaths very similar in number to firearm homicides. Why isn't Obama crying about that? Even when counting suicide with a firearm, motorvehicle and poisoning account for more deaths each year than firearms. So why all the focus on firearms?

quote:

---

Please tell us what is this secret political agenda that the president has been working on.

---

He doesn't have to have a secret agenda to be a fool and to endorse the usurpation of due process. Being a fool is enough for people to be concerned. But nice try in your attempt to make everyone that is pro-gun out as paranoid. And, if he does have an agenda, that can be thwarted to by simply addressing the idiocy of his words and deeds.

Stricter gun control laws could save a few lives here and there, but are those lives enough to offset the millions of people that would have their rights stepped on be creating new regulations?