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re: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)

Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:43 am to
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:43 am to
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That makes NO logical sense, even if you have no knowledge of poker. You don't call bluffs with a bluff yourself.


and you get downvoted

We are clearly wasting our breath at this point
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8526 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:52 am to
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Yea, somewhere between 2x-2.5x. I don’t think the scam team is that sharp in poker and just knew she had the better hand at that time.


This would track with the 24 y/o alleged their's record. I believe he got a DUI, went to jail for the night, and then got another DUI the next day after he got out
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:56 am to
My favorite part of this whole story was the “DM” Robbie received from Bryan. It’s a must read. Like how could she possibly think that would make her case stronger. It sounds exactly like she wrote it.

Yea, he was supposed to go on joey’s podcast last night and tell his story. He lawyered up and declined. Probably the smartest thing he ever did.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 8:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466733 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:04 am to
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and you get downvoted

We are clearly wasting our breath at this point

It's all just math and the big picture. 2 things this board has problems with, apparently
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:15 am to
Who is Bryan? He’s the production guy?
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23334 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:16 am to
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False. She had the high hand going into the river.
she called $2,500 after the flop when she had a 30% chance of winning the hand. If she knew his cards that makes no sense.

At least the odds on the TV (it sounds like you’ve found another odds calculator that gives her the advantage?) after the turn have her at 47% - if she knew his cards why go all in?
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:41 am to
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My favorite part of this whole story was the “DM” Robbie received from Bryan. It’s a must read. Like how could she possibly think that would make her case stronger. It sounds exactly like she wrote it


Agreed. His statement is just over the top. He says he didn't know who's stack it was lol. Really? You thought you could steal 15k from Phil Ivey on camera & get away with it?

C'mon man
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:41 am to
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It's all just math and the big picture. 2 things this board has problems with, apparently


Well you know that, you ain't new here.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:42 am to
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At least the odds on the TV


The odds on the stream factor in the folded hands
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466733 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 9:40 am to
Listen, bubba. It's about the hand and readin your opponent. The cards don't matter.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23334 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:17 am to
Then why throw $2,500 at 7/8 suited when you’re holding J4o?
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:33 am to
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Then why throw $2,500 at 7/8 suited when you’re holding J4o?


Backdoor straight and flush draw vs a 1/3 pot size bet is an easy float on the flop. That’s actually the most standard play in the whole hand from a poker perspective
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:58 am to
I watched most of the feed after the incident and one of the players made a good point. He said that the woman mistakenly thought she had a 3 and then was embarrassed when she realized she didn’t so she lied about why she called.

It also explains why she might have given the money back. She was humiliated and handled the situation like an insecure newby. The pro that lost the hand mistook that for her being shady.

I read Adelstein’s post and while it was well put together, it had nothing substantial in my opinion.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 11:03 am
Posted by SaintsTiger
1,000,000 Posts
Member since Oct 2014
1953 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 11:13 am to
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I watched most of the feed after the incident and one of the players made a good point. He said that the woman mistakenly thought she had a 3 and then was embarrassed when she realized she didn’t so she lied about why she called. It also explains why she might have given the money back. She was humiliated and handled the situation like an insecure newby. The pro that lost the hand mistook that for her being shady. I read Adelstein’s post and while it was well put together, it had nothing substantial in my opinion.


No way. She literally stared at her cards for seconds before making the play.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29053 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:04 pm to
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No way. She literally stared at her cards for seconds before making the play.

Yeah she looked for a while, no way she misread.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29053 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:09 pm to
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if she knew his cards she would have also known she had the worse hand and would have folded. Especially since they were running it twice.

That’s what I don’t get about the cheating accusations. If she knew what we knew she would have folded.
She had high card, she had him beat. Problem is nobody thinks a high card jack can win when somebody goes all-in for a couple pots, especially when seeing all the draws on the board.

Unless you know jack high can take the hand if the draws miss.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4920 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:27 pm to
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She can and did call. His bluff. With her bluff.

This is when you should just bow out of this thread.

You don't CALL a bluff with a bluff. You only BET with a bluff.

I know you won't understand......
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:28 pm to
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This is when you should just bow out of this thread. You don't CALL a bluff with a bluff. You only BET with a bluff. I know you won't understand......


Every person that’s played a $20 tournament with friends during the poker boom has an opinion.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23334 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:31 am to
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The odds on the stream factor in the folded hands
but if they were cheating and knew the hole cards wouldn't they have that info too? or are we saying they just knew Garrett's hole cards and no one elses?

i agree that head to head not knowing they dead cards she had the advantage but i would think if they had hacked the deck they would know the folded cards as well which flips the odds in garrett's favor no?
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:03 am to
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That makes NO logical sense, even if you have no knowledge of poker. You don't call bluffs with a bluff yourself.


and you get downvoted

We are clearly wasting our breath at this point


You guys need to play with women more,

They subscribe to no unwritten rules, they do not play logically.

They play on vibes of what they think you've got, and what they think is coming.

Although they win less overall, over the long arc, they tend to get hotter hot streaks.

I play with a group of 50-60 players and about 6 girls play with no unwritten rules and break into the money in streaks, in 7-8 tournaments in a row 1 or 2 will get to the final table calling nonsense with high card, low pair, sometimes just shite.
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