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re: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:16 am to Swagga
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:16 am to Swagga
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That’s why I thought she possibly just mistaked which cards she had, but after seeing the video of her chair vibrating she was def cheating IMO.
She was raising the pot with a statistically inferior hand
That is some kind of cheating
The kind of cheating only a degenerate gambler would claim when cards dont fall right
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 10:17 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:16 am to Open Your Eyes
Sure, the cards that are dealt to the players is “chance”. It’s how you play those cards in which the skill and strategy come into play. If you think that winning in poker is luck you’d have a point with a very small sample size. But the thing to remember is that playing poker is trying to make moves that are profitable over time. Calling with Jack high is profitable in this specific situation but over time it is a losing call.
While I think she should’ve let GA have that specific pot, it does tend to get aggressive with that exact holding. I had someone in a poker room ($1/3) call me down out of position with queen high when I raised preflop and bet every street. It happens sometimes. He ended up leaving the table with no money within a few hours.
While I think she should’ve let GA have that specific pot, it does tend to get aggressive with that exact holding. I had someone in a poker room ($1/3) call me down out of position with queen high when I raised preflop and bet every street. It happens sometimes. He ended up leaving the table with no money within a few hours.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:17 am to Swagga
quote:where is this?
seeing the video of her chair vibrating
I would think if you can see her chair vibrating the dude sitting 18 inches away from her would hear the vibrations.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 10:18 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:19 am to Swagga
Weird hand for sure, but shite like that happens sometimes doesn’t it? Sometimes people get caught up in the moment and play badly, yet it still works out.
The dude pushed all in on a draw, and even the probabilities on the screen showed it as a legit coin flip (53/47%).
And sure, she said she thought he may have ace high (which doesn’t make sense) but she also said she was didn’t have shite and was only calling to see if he was bluffing or not. That at least makes some sense to me. Especially if she thinks he’s gotten away with bluffs before (which I think I remember her saying).
So while her call was stupid, his push was sort of stupid too and he was trying to bully her out of the hand. So she called it to see if he was doing that. Her having Jack high doesn’t mean much since she actually had higher cards than he was and was seeing if he was full of shite (which he was).
My question is what we’re they playing where there were two river cards? I’ve never seen that before. Also, the way she was acting was definitely kinda weird. So while I’m not convinced she was cheating, it makes sense why people are wondering about that based on her reaction and actions. Weird situation all around but sometimes weird shite happens in poker. And without proof of anything otherwise, I’d just chalk it up to one of those weird poker situations.
The dude pushed all in on a draw, and even the probabilities on the screen showed it as a legit coin flip (53/47%).
And sure, she said she thought he may have ace high (which doesn’t make sense) but she also said she was didn’t have shite and was only calling to see if he was bluffing or not. That at least makes some sense to me. Especially if she thinks he’s gotten away with bluffs before (which I think I remember her saying).
So while her call was stupid, his push was sort of stupid too and he was trying to bully her out of the hand. So she called it to see if he was doing that. Her having Jack high doesn’t mean much since she actually had higher cards than he was and was seeing if he was full of shite (which he was).
My question is what we’re they playing where there were two river cards? I’ve never seen that before. Also, the way she was acting was definitely kinda weird. So while I’m not convinced she was cheating, it makes sense why people are wondering about that based on her reaction and actions. Weird situation all around but sometimes weird shite happens in poker. And without proof of anything otherwise, I’d just chalk it up to one of those weird poker situations.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:23 am to Caraway Rye
quote:
She was raising the pot with a statistically inferior hand
To call it statistically inferior is like calling the sinking of the Titanic a boating accident
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:25 am to Swagga
quote:oddly enough that's her best defense against cheating accusations. The call was so bad you wouldn't make if you're cheating
It’s so weird to me to be cheating and still make the call on that hand. Way too obvious.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:26 am to GeauxTigers0107
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To call it statistically inferior is like calling the sinking of the Titanic a boating accident
Well exactly
It makes claims that someone was buzzing her to throw money in completely laughable
She road a shitty hand hard and won
The analytics professionals cheating the poker pro for his shekels would not have told her to raise on a loser hand before seeing two cards
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:32 am to Civildawg
quote:everytime I click the link it shows a different video
there is a new video out that shows the chair shaking when she has the best hand and doesn’t when she’s beat. Go to around the 1:16 mark LINK
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:35 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:if you shove with a 10% chance of winning, you will over time, win 10% of the time.
explain how the 10%(according to your knowledge and understnding) hand winning with 2 different river cards proves that poker is a game of math and not chance. Us novices are dying to know.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:40 am to UncleFestersLegs
It’s over an hour long video. Go to the 1 hour 16 minute mark
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:41 am to UncleFestersLegs
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if you shove with a 10% chance of winning, you will over time, win 10% of the time.
And if you play poker against equal players over time you will lose money from rakes, fees, the two bucks you tipped someone that one time
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:41 am to Monday
quote:
If you think that winning in poker is luck you’d have a point with a very small sample size. But the thing to remember is that playing poker is trying to make moves that are profitable over time. Calling with Jack high is profitable in this specific situation but over time it is a losing call.
The only people arguing against this are the poker bro overlords that are convinced she cheated.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:42 am to Caraway Rye
quote:her flop raise isn't a problem. She's trying to move him off a club draw. He had a straight flush draw though and is the fav at this point. The only way she can reasonably think she can win the hand is to push him off his hand and you do that by shoving not calling
She was raising the pot with a statistically inferior hand
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:43 am to UncleFestersLegs
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f you shove with a 10% chance of winning, you will over time, win 10% of the time
This wasn’t over time. This was 1 time.
1 time she had a 10% of winning and won. Twice.
What would you call that?
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:43 am to UncleFestersLegs
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her flop raise isn't a problem. She's trying to move him off a club draw. He had a straight flush draw though and is the fav at this point. The only way she can reasonably think she can win the hand is to push him off his hand and you do that by shoving not calling
Except for the part where she won the hand
So it is not the only way you can reasonably win the hand
Something no one seems to grasp about a game of chance
Saying frick it lets see the cards is a play with reason
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:44 am to Civildawg
quote:seriously i get a different length video each time. I know dick about Instagram
It’s over an hour long video. Go to the 1 hour 16 minute mark
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:46 am to UncleFestersLegs
Yeah the video is pretty damning. Looks to me like she clearly had a vibrator in that was used to pass signals.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:47 am to Caraway Rye
quote:she made a horrendously bad call and won. The point is how she got there and that seems to be beyond your capacity to understand so I'll just leave it there
Except for the part where she won the hand
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:48 am to Open Your Eyes
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Speaking of brains not comprehending, you’re one of those ‘poker isn’t a game of chance’ people. So respond to this: explain how the 10%(according to your knowledge and understnding) hand winning with 2 different river cards proves that poker is a game of math and not chance. Us novices are dying to know.
Because running that spot multiple times will result in 10%. My argument is while there are chance components in poker, it much more complex than just stating it’s a game of chance. Slot machines are chance.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:48 am to UncleFestersLegs
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she made a horrendously bad call and won.
You can throw 5 grand on the high low on a craps table and win
Its a horrendous bet
Thats what gambling is
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