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The Civil War becomes a revolution against slavery - 157 years ago today
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:03 am
September 22, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln announces his Emancipation Proclamation.
After the strategic victory of the Maryland Campaign of 1862, which climaxed with the bloodiest single day in American history on September 17, Abraham Lincoln takes the gloves off and issues to the South an ultimatum.
The Confederacy had until January 1, 1863, to lay down their arms and rejoin the Union. If they did not, then the Emancipation Proclamation would set free all slaves in bondage in the rebellious states. He cleverly left out the border states (states which had remained loyal to the Union despite being slave states) as he still needed their loyalty to successfully wage war against the Confederates.
The Emancipation Proclamation was a political coup that ultimately doomed the South to fighting the United States alone for the duration of the war. France and Great Britain had been weighing the pros and cons of officially recognizing the Confederacy, but their continued possession of human slaves gave them pause. By making the war a crusade to end slavery instead of just preserving the Union, the North seized the moral high ground once and for all, thus making it impossible for France and Great Britain to side with the South.
The Confederate government quickly responded to Lincoln's ultimatum, effectively scoffing at the idea of ever returning to the Union. Nevertheless, Richmond had until the end of the year to reconsider its position.
After the strategic victory of the Maryland Campaign of 1862, which climaxed with the bloodiest single day in American history on September 17, Abraham Lincoln takes the gloves off and issues to the South an ultimatum.
The Confederacy had until January 1, 1863, to lay down their arms and rejoin the Union. If they did not, then the Emancipation Proclamation would set free all slaves in bondage in the rebellious states. He cleverly left out the border states (states which had remained loyal to the Union despite being slave states) as he still needed their loyalty to successfully wage war against the Confederates.
The Emancipation Proclamation was a political coup that ultimately doomed the South to fighting the United States alone for the duration of the war. France and Great Britain had been weighing the pros and cons of officially recognizing the Confederacy, but their continued possession of human slaves gave them pause. By making the war a crusade to end slavery instead of just preserving the Union, the North seized the moral high ground once and for all, thus making it impossible for France and Great Britain to side with the South.
The Confederate government quickly responded to Lincoln's ultimatum, effectively scoffing at the idea of ever returning to the Union. Nevertheless, Richmond had until the end of the year to reconsider its position.
This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 9:04 am
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:09 am to RollTide1987
Lincoln didnt give a shite about the slaves. He needed more recruits and thought this would help with that. It ended up backfiring and causing major riots throughout major northern cities.
But go ahead and keep knighting the most unconstitutional president in the history of the US.
This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 9:11 am
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:13 am to RollTide1987
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The Civil War becomes a revolution against slavery - 157 years ago today
Yet the north continued to allow slavery throughout the civil war.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:13 am to GREENHEAD22
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Lincoln didnt give a shite about the slaves.
Whether he cared or not, it doesn't change the fact that what he did changed the character of the war.
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But go ahead and keep knighting the most unconstitutional president in the history of the US.
I am neither knighting him nor condemning him, I'm simply posting facts which are undeniable.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:15 am to RollTide1987
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Whether he cared or not, it doesn't change the fact that what he did changed the character of the war.
But it really didn’t.... you can’t say you’re fighting to end slavery while still having slaves....
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:15 am to beerJeep
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Yet the north continued to allow slavery throughout the civil war.
Tell me...even if you were the most fervent abolitionist, would you dare tempt fate by freeing the slaves in Maryland? Because if you do, Maryland secedes, and your national capital is suddenly 100 miles BEHIND enemy lines.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:16 am to GREENHEAD22
quote:I mean, the amount of effort he put into ratifying the 13th amendment would kind of dispute that, no?
Lincoln didnt give a shite about the slaves. He needed more recruits and thought this would help with that.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:17 am to beerJeep
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But it really didn’t.... you can’t say you’re fighting to end slavery while still having slaves....
But it did, because the Emancipation Proclamation kept France and Great Britain from joining the conflict on the side of the Confederacy. Do you like the Union's chances if they had to contend with the Royal Navy, the French Army, and Robert E. Lee?
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:18 am to RollTide1987
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Tell me...even if you were the most fervent abolitionist, would you dare tempt fate by freeing the slaves in Maryland?
You can’t say you’re fighting to free slaves but not free your own slaves. It doesn’t work like that.
I mean, I guess you can, but it makes you one hell of a hypocrite.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:19 am to GREENHEAD22
Where is he knighting?
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:19 am to beerJeep
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ou can’t say you’re fighting to free slaves but not free your own slaves. It doesn’t work like that.
But it does and it did.
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it makes you one hell of a hypocrite
The very definition of politics.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:20 am to funnystuff
I don't have time to find it but the idea was literally brought up by some of his cabinet members when they realized there was no end in the foreseeable future and more troops were needed. Its faily well documented.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:21 am to GREENHEAD22
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I don't have time to find it but the idea was literally brought up by some of his cabinet members when they realized there was no end in the foreseeable future and more troops were needed.
Many in his cabinet were against the Emancipation Proclamation for one reason or another.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:24 am to RollTide1987
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But it does and it did.
Except they fought to preserve the union... not to free slaves.... as if you were fighting to end slavery, you wouldn’t allow slavery....
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The very definition of politics.
Oh no doubt. But at the end of the day it was a political move that had no real implications for the slaves in the south. It helped keep outsiders from assisting the south, but we both know that “freeing the slaves” wasn’t the goal. It was the bonus.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:25 am to RollTide1987
If Britain sided with the confederacy , what would have happened ?
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:25 am to GREENHEAD22
I’m not disputing that the additional soldiers were one of the draws. But saying that lincoln didn’t give a frick about the slaves ignores his words and actions across the rest of the entirety of the first half of the 1860s. That’s just fat out wrong.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:26 am to RollTide1987
God bless the Union and God bless President Lincoln
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:29 am to Boo Krewe
Ppl in the south would be drinking hot tea not sweet tea.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:29 am to beerJeep
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Except they fought to preserve the union... not to free slaves
At first. But the Emancipation Proclamation changed the game. The freeing of slaves became a war aim on January 1, 1863.
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as if you were fighting to end slavery, you wouldn’t allow slavery.
Nothing is ever black and white.
Lincoln couldn't come for the slaves in the border states in 1862 because the situation in most of them was very volatile. Maryland came within an inch of seceding in 1861 and many in the Lincoln administration still questioned that state's loyalty a year later. If Maryland seceded, the national capital is behind enemy lines.
Only after he was re-elected in November 1864 could he make a decisive move against slavery everywhere, which is why he brought the 13th amendment to debate and eventual vote in January 1865.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:32 am to GREENHEAD22
It’s so unamerican to not support YOUR president.
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