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re: The California water shortage..I mean water isn't a finite resource
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:26 am to CAD703X
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:26 am to CAD703X
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so let get this straight, baton rouge municipal water can clean the shite, piss and decomposing animals out of the water and send it back to your faucet but we can't clean salt from it?
They built a de-salination plant (costing millions) near Santa Barbara, but when locals found out how much petro energy was needed to power it, they just locked the gates and left it to rot
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:26 am to slackster
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If 70% of your urban water use is for lawns and landscaping, you don't really have a water crisis of any type. They don't have the water supply necessary to cover their wants, but the water available for their needs is more than enough.
They're dramatically losing their fresh water supplies. That is the definition of sustainability.
In addition, they also build homes in hilly areas with chaparelle which is nothing but fire tinder. Water isn't their only issue.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:26 am to CAD703X
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so all you need is a filter to catch the water and heat.
Sounds like technological sci-fi.
yeah man
that simple
so build the plant and do it at an efficient rate and become a billionaire
go ahead
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
Nah. We already have 1/3 of the total number of people on assistance in the country living here. We more than carry our share.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:26 am to CAD703X
quote:Distilling water is more energy intensive than reverse osmosis, but even that is more energy intensive than purifying already fresh water.
can't you just evaporate the water and collect that leaving the salt behind?
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:27 am to TxTiger82
"Recycled Water" is the way to go...
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:27 am to CAD703X
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Lol at trying to grow a lawn in the desert you stupid fricks.
Plant a couple of cactuses and groom the dirt and call it a day.
exactly. you want a lawn move out the desert.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:28 am to Tiger in NY
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when locals found out how much petro energy was needed to power it, they just locked the gates and left it to rot
fricking idiots. Why do you think real estate in San Fran is sky high? There's literally fricking millions of undeveloped acres right there.. They just locked the developers out.
Progress!
Meanwhile they waive all kinds of these restrictions when their darling Apple wants to build a spaceship.
fricking liberal hypocrites
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:28 am to CAD703X
Heather told us that George Bush could cause hurricanes. Why won't Obama use the same technology to increase rainfall? Does he hate California?
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:29 am to CAD703X
Cosign. I don't have a lawn but if I did I would be happy with native plants and grass. They're not pretty but they don't use much water. Actually I'd add some of the flowering plants from Australia that don't use much water either, but look much nicer.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:30 am to CAD703X
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Lol at trying to grow a lawn in the desert you stupid fricks
That is really the issue. A good chunk of their economy is agriculture based, but as mentioned earlier, they're a net exporter, so if they wanted to focus on CA and CA alone, they'd have no issues.
Again, their issue isn't people living in unsustainable areas because no one can argue lawn care is required for sustainability.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:30 am to CAD703X
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Lol at trying to grow a lawn in the desert you stupid fricks.
Plant a couple of cactuses and groom the dirt and call it a day.
The problem with letting the desert take over is it makes the water problem worse. It's a positive feedback cycle.
But I know, you don't give a shite, they should all move somewhere else.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:30 am to SSpaniel
quote:What I'm saying is they need to get rid of the cows.
But they (well, one farmer) said if they used another type of hay, they cows go sick, didn't do well and were in poorer health all around. Or something to that effect.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:31 am to Salmon
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so let get this straight, baton rouge municipal water can clean the shite, piss and decomposing animals out of the water and send it back to your faucet but we can't clean salt from it?
What I don't understand is the process they use for desal.
On my submarine, we used the superheated water from the nuke power plant coolant system to boil seawater and then condense the steam for freshwater.
These desal plants use high pressure (high energy consumed) pumps to push saltwater through filters to get the salt out.
Why couldn't the 2 large commercial nuclear power plants on California's coast be retrofitted so that their secondary coolant (non-radioactive) can use the same process the US Navy has proven over the last 70 years?
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
Another link on agriculture and water waste in California:
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LINK
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According to a 2012 report by the Pacific Institute, only 4% of California's water is used by individuals An astounding 93% of California's water goes to agriculture; and most of that 93% is misused or wasted
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Drive down Interstate 5 in the middle of summer in 100-plus-degree weather and you will see huge sprinklers spraying water in the middle of the day and fields being flooded in the process, losing huge amounts of water to evaporation. Very few crops and very little acreage is watered with drip irrigation in California compared to other arid regions of the world
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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They're dramatically losing their fresh water supplies. That is the definition of sustainability.
I understand that, but when you get down to the reasons, you can see that it is sustainable for the people in the area. Easily quite frankly.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:33 am to Korkstand
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What I'm saying is they need to get rid of the cows.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:33 am to Tiger in NY
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That overstates rice's take a bit, as some of the water is reused after it sloshes off the fields or soaks into the ground.
It percolates into the groundwater, even if it drains through a drainage canal. None of what you quoted refers to the amount of water that is actually consumed in the crop and unused in the future.
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But it's clear that growing rice simply wouldn’t work in California without a lot of water.
Actually, there are a lot of water saving techniques used in my area that cut way down on the water consumption (some up to 2/3 total gallons). I don't believe that you cant grow rice in CA, you just have to be smarter about it.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:35 am to slackster
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I understand that, but when you get down to the reasons, you can see that it is sustainable for the people in the area
That's not what sustainability means... Are you serious?
To be sustainable, you not only have to support the people and critters but maintain an ecological balance and keep from depleting natural resources. You're arguing the wrong concept of the word.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:36 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:we're scared of nuclear power in Cali
On my submarine, we used the superheated water from the nuke power plant coolant system to boil seawater and then condense the steam for freshwater.
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