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The Brothers Karamazov--what translation?

Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:44 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:44 am
Circumstances in my life have led me to attempt to tackle my 1st Russian novel, but am not sure what translation to go with. Apparently, it makes quite a difference. Any advice?
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:46 am to
English
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:47 am to
Avoid Constance Garnett. I don't like her translations of anything. I love the Richard Pevear and Laura Volokhonsky translations. Utterly brilliant, and I think capture the music of certain scenes very well, especially in the opening passages of the novel.

If you are into Russian lit, Nabakov has a translation of the awesome A Hero of Our Time by Lermontov. That book is amazing.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:47 am to
I've only read McDuff's, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I haven't read any of the others and certainly don't know shite about the original Russian and how well it translates.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:48 am to
I have McDuff version

I didn't find it that difficult to read
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:49 am to
quote:

I didn't find it that difficult to read



Dostoevsky has a reputation has being hard to read, but I don't think he is. He's not nearly as inscrutable as say Beckett or Pynchon.
Posted by Slippy
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I love the Richard Pevear and Laura Volokhonsky translations


This. I swear to God, never have 800 pages flown by so fast. When I was finished, I was inspired to tackle Anna Karenina. Not quite as enjoyable, but good.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:52 am to
Which translation did you have of Anna Karenina? For me the novel read better than Victorian novels of manners and even Dickens.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:55 am to
read crime and punishment first

much better read imo
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:02 am to
I just looked up that the one I read was translated by McDuff. I don't know how it compares, but I thought it was very readable.
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:07 am to
watch the movie with CC turned on. Done

No movie? then the book must have sucked
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 11:08 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I love the Richard Pevear and Laura Volokhonsky translation


This and the McDuff seem to be the consensus. I'd like to get a hardback, but the ones on Amazon all appear to be the Garnett.

And I'm no Russian lit aficionado, there are just some themes in this particular novel I'd like to explore. Thanks for all the help, guys.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 11:30 am
Posted by HMTVBrian2
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

I love the Richard Pevear and Laura Volokhonsky translations


This is the only answer.

Their translation of Crime and Punishment is also top notch. Great book too.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:28 am to
The Modern Library and The Everymans Library seem to be the only hardcovers(on Amazon), but there is very little info on which translations they are.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:31 am to
Stick with the King James version
Posted by Slippy
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:32 am to
Re: Anna Karenina

I already had the Constance Garnett translation on my bookshelf, so that's what I read. It was okay. I'm sure there's a newer, better one.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:40 am to
I read the Richard Pevear and Laura Volokhonsky translation
Posted by webstew
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:43 am to
quote:

quote:
I love the Richard Pevear and Laura Volokhonsky translations


This is the only answer.


Helen got her panties all in a wad over this version
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:49 am to
I think she's justified. Having read Pevear / Volokhonsky it is hard to get past the super, ultra-mega annoying / almost incoherent sentence structure, and enjoy the book. Particularly a book that long. McDuff took greater liberty, so he loses exactness, but in so doing, he made it readable for native English speakers. Anyone who has taken a foreign language knows that there's a way to translate what's in front of you DIRECTLY and there's a more artful way of translating that takes it from the direct into the other language, as the other language is spoken / written. What Pevear / Volokhonsky did was just translate it directly and then barely clean it up. McDuff fully transported it into English.

I read Pevear / Volokhonsky and didn't like it much. Having read snippets of McDfuff, I think I missed out. I'd like to go back and read it McDuff's way.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

This and the McDuff seem to be the consensus. I'd like to get a hardback, but the ones on Amazon all appear to be the Garnett.



This one might be Pevear.

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