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re: The average monthly new car payment in 2022 is $644

Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:02 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:02 am to
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I got a better job offer for another firm because I'm not an idiot who buys 90K trucks I dont need.




Why you financing cars every five years if you're such a super successful wealth manager?
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:03 am to
So you built your own vehicle?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:05 am to
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So you built your own vehicle?
most of the shite I build myself will be of far less quality and will be far less nice than what I can buy. Especially when talking vehicles.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:06 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:05 am to
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Its super simp!

Classic simp behavior. I'll bet your taste in women is as cheap.



You know you lost the debate when you have to resort to personal attacks. Poor rog.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:06 am to
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Its super simp!

Classic simp behavior. I'll bet your taste in women is as cheap.


I love when old people try to use new phrases and fail miserably.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:06 am to
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So you built your own vehicle?


No, I accept that they're made of cheap junk, and will be worthless in a few years


Its transportation.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:07 am
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
1727 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:07 am to
Financing a 60k vehicle with low financing for 84 months lol

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43876 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:08 am to
Good question. As some have pointed out, debt can be effectively leveraged to MAKE you money. I had the cash to buy that truck, but instead, I invested the cash in real estate about a year ago. That property has doubled in value and has a rental income stream. I financed the truck at virtually zero interest on a short term and I intend to keep it for a long time. That frees up more cash to invest.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:09 am to
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I had the cash to buy that truck, but instead, I invested the cash in real estate about a year ago.


What about all the other vehicles over the years you've bought? Or are you claiming that real estate always doubles over the course of a year?

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43876 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:10 am to
I typically buy a lower spec level of a given vehicle, and hit the aftermarket for the missing features I really want. You can typically get higher quality at a lower price this way.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:10 am to
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I typically buy a lower spec level of a given vehicle, and hit the aftermarket for the missing features I really want. You can typically get higher quality at a lower price this way.




Please tell me these high quality aftermarket addons you install.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:12 am to
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No doubt. You can cruise through any subdivision in the US and you will see 150K in iron sitting in the driveway of their McMansions. It'll be worth the scrap rate by the time they pay it off


I don’t get some people’s fascination with holding onto a car until they pay it off, or thinking a car is an asset. I look at it more like rent - each monthly note is money that is spent and gone. If I’m at a period in life where we’re doing lots of family traveling, give me that Jag XJL with the heated seat massagers so we can travel in comfort. If I’m looking for fun, give me that Grand Sport or Mach 1 so I can hit the race track. If I need to tow or haul stuff, give me that truck. I’m paying for that service the car provides me until I’m ready for a new one a year or two later. It’s not something I want to pay off and hold onto.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:13 am to
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I typically buy a lower spec level of a given vehicle, and hit the aftermarket for the missing features I really want


Anyone paying dealer price for some of these add on's is an idiot.

But that's why America is cash poor and fat.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43876 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:14 am to
Ive bought some cash, some using financing. Different situations call for a different approach. so?


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Or are you claiming that real estate always doubles over the course of a year?


Who is making shite up now?


Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43876 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:15 am to
We save less than we've ever saved, yet we spend more than we've ever spent. Inflation adjusted incomes have stayed relatively flat. Ask yourself how this happens.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
86882 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:16 am to
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Who is making shite up now?



Forgive me for thiking you followed your own advice
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Step 1: Buy a practical vehicle you can afford. The number of 4X4 F250's I see with unblemished trailer hitches is pretty alarming.

Step 2: A good metric is something you can pay off in 5 years or less. Dont stretch your monthly cash flow, either. Keep it comfortable.

Step 3: Take care of the vehicle. Keep up with the maintenance religiously.

Step 4: Keep it for a decade.

Step 5: As soon as its paid off, buy your second vehicle and repeat the process. You're welcome.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:16 am to
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Eh, no biggie. I bought my Tacoma in May 2020. It was $45052 out the door with $0 down and 0% interest for 60 months. The note is $750/mth.
45K for a Tacoma. WTF?!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:17 am to
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We save less than we've ever saved, yet we spend more than we've ever spent. Inflation adjusted incomes have stayed relatively flat. Ask yourself how this happens.



Its an awesome time to finance stuff, if you're smart. For the average American, that doesn't mean maxing out borrowing ability though.

Most Americans aren't smart enough to handle cheap credit. They can't stop themselves.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54694 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:18 am to
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What about all the other vehicles over the years you've bought?
Here’s the way I look at vehicle purchases that makes sense for me and hopefully allows me to drive a decent car while simultaneously moving forward on a path to build some wealth:

1. Could I buy this vehicle in cash if I wanted to?
If yes,
2. Would I buy this vehicle if I was paying cash today? In other words, am I buying more vehicle than I otherwise would if I was paying cash instead of financing. If yes,
3. Am I putting that cash to work in investments that I comfortably set out performing the interest rate on my loan.
If yes, I can make that purchase effectively using the math that makes leveraging the banks money work. Also, I don’t use the same money invested to justify the use of more than one auto purchase.

I haven’t always been in a position to answer yes to all of those questions and still financed cars, but I made sacrifices in the cars I purchased (and bought some with cash) in hopes I could get to that point.

Those are my personal guidelines moving forward. It’s not something that is right for everyone or the only or probably best way to go about it.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25553 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:18 am to
Yeah there is a reason I am hanging onto my F250 until it’s a classic.. cost $51k brand new in 2012 replacement is $80k plus. It’s not like my salary almost doubled over that same timeframe.
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