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Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:14 am to Ross
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I’m hoping you can use shock and awe from the atomic bomb and not have to kill innocent people.
And what happens when Japan thinks they are going to call your bluff?
“See they would never drop the bomb anywhere that would really do harm. America scared.”
Then you’re in the same position and wasted a bomb and the resources to make that bomb.
You don’t understand how fanatically crazy the Japanese were then.
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 10:16 am
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:15 am to RollTide1987
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I am actually and have the courage to admit it. Of the three options that confronted Truman in 1945, the one that involved the least greatest loss of life was the option involving the atomic bomb. Truman, the Combined Chiefs of Staff, and other powerbrokers didn't take the decision lightly either. This is evidenced by the fact that we haven't used nuclear weapons ever since.
Just as a point of curiosity, do you consider yourself a consequentialist when it comes to all matters of moral judgement?
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:18 am to TackySweater
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A nerve has been struck lol
Indeed.
Hes basically Niles Crane. His fighting is done through lawyers offices.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'd love to see your soft arse invading Japan back in 45.
Ah yes, the literal cuck is a manly man. Sure, Roger.
You would have run away back then, just as you’ve done now.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:20 am to Mo Jeaux
Do you have any idea how many bammers I've had upvote in this thread for answering your nonsense and non-arguments? That right there is a real war crime!
One other point - there are people whose profession pervades every aspect of their lives. Those people are, more often than not, not only bad at their profession, but also the stereotypes on which jokes about their profession are based. If you are indeed an attorney as implied by several above, congratulations on your ascension to walking, talking lawyer joke. That's pretty much what your replies in this thread sum up to. Bad law practice by continuing an argument purely for the sake of arguing, rather than for reaching a conclusion or learning.
One other point - there are people whose profession pervades every aspect of their lives. Those people are, more often than not, not only bad at their profession, but also the stereotypes on which jokes about their profession are based. If you are indeed an attorney as implied by several above, congratulations on your ascension to walking, talking lawyer joke. That's pretty much what your replies in this thread sum up to. Bad law practice by continuing an argument purely for the sake of arguing, rather than for reaching a conclusion or learning.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:22 am to TigerHornII
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If you are indeed an attorney as implied by several above, congratulations on your ascension to walking, talking lawyer joke. That's pretty much what your replies in this thread sum up to. B
Dude has never broken a nail, and claims that sending other peoples kids to fight in Japan would have been superior to ending the war.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:22 am to TigerHornII
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One other point - there are people whose profession pervades every aspect of their lives. Those people are, more often than not, not only bad at their profession, but also the stereotypes on which jokes about their profession are based. If you are indeed an attorney as implied by several above, congratulations on your ascension to walking, talking lawyer joke. That's pretty much what your replies in this thread sum up to. Bad law practice by continuing an argument purely for the sake of arguing, rather than for reaching a conclusion or learning.
Some real mental gymnastics in this word salad.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Dude has never broken a nail
I’ve also never pimped my wife out for other men to frick. Oh well, guess I’ll just have to keep missing out on that excitement, Roger.
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claims that sending other peoples kids to fight in Japan would have been superior to ending the war.
Cite? I’ll wait … a really, really long time, because I’ve done nothing of the sort.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:24 am to Mo Jeaux
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You would have run away back then
Sorry Niles, men don't run.
We certainly don't listen to males who wouldn't know a butt stock from a barrel of a gun.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'd love to see your soft arse invading Japan back in 45.
This for sure

Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:26 am to Mo Jeaux
Take a stand, then.
Was the US nuking Japan the right choice solely in the context of “best decision for America?”
Was the US nuking Japan the right choice solely in the context of “best decision for America?”
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Sorry Niles, men don't run.
So you’re not a man then because you’ve run away from your problems a few times in your life. You’ve also pimped your wife out. I’ll pass on manhood lessons from you, Roger.
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wouldn't know a butt stock from a barrel of a gun.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:27 am to Hateradedrink
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Was the US nuking Japan the right choice solely in the context of “best decision for America?”
“Was it?” - Mo
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:28 am to Mo Jeaux
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So you’re not a man then because you’ve run away from your problems a few times in your life
Soy boi fairy tales.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Soy boi fairy tales.
Nope. You’ve admitted it.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:32 am to Mo Jeaux
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Nope. You’ve admitted it.
Find a link. Because its purely your imagination, which is a hell of a lot more robust than your athletic ability.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:32 am to Mo Jeaux
Can we stop name calling and get back to the topic?
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Was the US nuking Japan the right choice solely in the context of “best decision for America?”
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:33 am to TackySweater
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Was the US nuking Japan the right choice solely in the context of “best decision for America?”
Absolutely.
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Because the U.S. military planners assumed "that operations in this area will be opposed not only by the available organized military forces of the Empire, but also by a fanatically hostile population",[13] high casualties were thought to be inevitable, but nobody knew with certainty how high. Several estimates were made, but varied widely in numbers, assumptions and purposes, which included advocating and opposing the invasion. The estimated casualty figures later became a crucial point in postwar debate over the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
On 15 January 1945, the U.S. Army Service Forces released a document, "Redeployment of the United States Army after the Defeat of Germany." In it, they estimate that during the 18 month period after June 1945 (that is, through December 1946), the Army would be required to furnish replacements for 43,000 dead and evacuated wounded every month.[84] From analysis of the replacement schedule and projected strengths in overseas theaters, it suggested that Army losses alone in those categories, excluding the Navy and Marine Corps, would be approximately 863,000 through the first part of 1947, of whom 267,000 would be killed or missing.[85] This likewise excludes wounded who would be treated in-theater during an initial window of 30 days, later to be expanded to 120 days.
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:47 am to Ross
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Just as a point of curiosity, do you consider yourself a consequentialist when it comes to all matters of moral judgement?
Our nation was at war with another nation. It would be immoral for us to willingly prolong the war and cause more loss of life because Ross on TD quivers in his boots at the thought of a big bang.
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