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re: The 3 megaton h-bomb that almost detonated over North Carolina.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:01 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:01 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Had the device detonated, lethal fallout could have been deposited over Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and as far north as New York City — putting millions of lives at risk,"
While this is the immediate threat, what about the sequence of events that would have happened? Immediately the country would have thought we were under nuclear attack: In the initial confusion, would the truth about an accident have made it to the President? Would we go to DEFCON 1, and would the Soviets react? The panic in the streets would cause almost certain riots. There are so many stories about near misses, we are lucky nothing ever popped off.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:13 pm to junkfunky
It actually does, dipshit.
Not to mention the strain of those sick decades later would have on our already overcrowded healthcare system.
Not to mention the strain of those sick decades later would have on our already overcrowded healthcare system.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:15 pm to TigerV
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While this is the immediate threat, what about the sequence of events that would have happened? Immediately the country would have thought we were under nuclear attack: In the initial confusion, would the truth about an accident have made it to the President? Would we go to DEFCON 1, and would the Soviets react? The panic in the streets would cause almost certain riots. There are so many stories about near misses, we are lucky nothing ever popped off.
100%
But the mouthbreathers here living in Bumfrick, LA, drooling over the thought of millions of east coast Americans dead can't process those ramifications.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:16 pm to ehidal1
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Who thought it was a good idea to patrol the US skies with nukes on the plane?
From the article...
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They were an insurance policy against a surprise nuclear attack by Russia on the United States — a sobering threat at the time. The on-alert crew might survive the initial attack, the thinking went, to respond with two large nuclear weapons tucked into the belly of their B-52G Stratofortress jet.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:27 pm to UndercoverBryologist
There is a picture of the bomb hanging in a tree.
Mississippi had an underground nuclear test shot.
Nuclear test Mississippi Wiki
Salmon Site is a 1,470-acre (5.9 km2) tract of land in Lamar County, Mississippi, near Baxterville. The tract is located over a geological formation known as the Tatum Salt Dome and is the location of the only nuclear weapons test detonations known to have been performed in the eastern United States.[1][2]
Two underground detonations, a joint effort of the US Atomic Energy Commission and the US Department of Defense, took place under the designation of Project Dribble, part of a larger program known as Vela Uniform (aimed at assessing remote detonation detection capabilities). The first test, known as the Salmon Event, took place on October 22, 1964.[2] It involved detonation of a 5.3 kiloton device at a depth of 2,700 feet (820 m).[3] The second test, known as the Sterling Event, took place on December 3, 1966 and involved detonation of a 380-ton device suspended in the cavity left by the previous test.[2] Further non-nuclear explosive tests were later conducted in the remaining cavity as part of the related Project Miracle Play.
In October 2006, responsibility for the site was transferred to the US Department of Energy's Office of Legacy Management. A plaque mounted on a short stone pillar marks the site.
On Wednesday, December 15, 2010, the United States Department of Energy transferred the Salmon Site, or Tatum Salt Dome as it's more commonly known, back to the state of Mississippi. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann said in a press release that the majority of the 1,470 acres (590 ha) will be used for timber but an undetermined portion will be open for public access. Access to the Salmon Site had previously been restricted and monitored by the federal government since the tests were first conducted in 1964 and 1966.
A granite monument surrounded by test wells marks the site of the nuclear bomb tests, in a clearing surrounded by a Mississippi state timber preserve. [2]
The shot near Winnfield was non-nuclear. They used high explosives.
Mississippi had an underground nuclear test shot.
Nuclear test Mississippi Wiki
Salmon Site is a 1,470-acre (5.9 km2) tract of land in Lamar County, Mississippi, near Baxterville. The tract is located over a geological formation known as the Tatum Salt Dome and is the location of the only nuclear weapons test detonations known to have been performed in the eastern United States.[1][2]
Two underground detonations, a joint effort of the US Atomic Energy Commission and the US Department of Defense, took place under the designation of Project Dribble, part of a larger program known as Vela Uniform (aimed at assessing remote detonation detection capabilities). The first test, known as the Salmon Event, took place on October 22, 1964.[2] It involved detonation of a 5.3 kiloton device at a depth of 2,700 feet (820 m).[3] The second test, known as the Sterling Event, took place on December 3, 1966 and involved detonation of a 380-ton device suspended in the cavity left by the previous test.[2] Further non-nuclear explosive tests were later conducted in the remaining cavity as part of the related Project Miracle Play.
In October 2006, responsibility for the site was transferred to the US Department of Energy's Office of Legacy Management. A plaque mounted on a short stone pillar marks the site.
On Wednesday, December 15, 2010, the United States Department of Energy transferred the Salmon Site, or Tatum Salt Dome as it's more commonly known, back to the state of Mississippi. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann said in a press release that the majority of the 1,470 acres (590 ha) will be used for timber but an undetermined portion will be open for public access. Access to the Salmon Site had previously been restricted and monitored by the federal government since the tests were first conducted in 1964 and 1966.
A granite monument surrounded by test wells marks the site of the nuclear bomb tests, in a clearing surrounded by a Mississippi state timber preserve. [2]
The shot near Winnfield was non-nuclear. They used high explosives.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:36 pm to redstick13
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hat mountain has some interesting history. A wildfire broke out after the nuclear experiment that nearly set the radioactive gas ablaze. A water tanker crashed into the mountain just above the blast site and two other crew members were overrun by the fire and died. You can still see the plane debris on the mountain ridge above the blast sight.
I guess they didn’t move it because of the radiation?
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
M.A.D. - Mutual Assured Destruction.
That is the ONLY deterent that is keeping mankind from blowing species (including homo sapiens) off the face of the earth.
Now contemplate this. As far as the United States is concerned, the nuclear phone and code is now within reach of a man with identifiable cognitive decline.
That is the ONLY deterent that is keeping mankind from blowing species (including homo sapiens) off the face of the earth.
Now contemplate this. As far as the United States is concerned, the nuclear phone and code is now within reach of a man with identifiable cognitive decline.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 3:49 pm to FredBear
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Damn, sounds like it not detonating was the worst break the country has has in a while. Imagine how much better off we would be
I’m imagining you as one of those morbidly obese clowns with a closet full of guns, no vault, that chuckled and embraced being called a deplorable all while farting cheeto dust into your lay-z-boy.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:00 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Such a blast could kill everyone and everything within a diameter of about 17 miles — roughly the area inside the Washington, DC, beltway.
Don’t tease us.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:15 pm to ldts
People used to show up and have parties there. Don’t know if they still do.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:44 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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(I see that we went to DEFCON 2 at the beginning of the 1991 Persian Gulf War. Does anybody know the reason for this?)
Leftover Cold War protocol - also, we circulated the notion that IF Saddam used chemical weapons on us, we would use nuclear weapons on him.
I don't think the threat was serious, but we wanted to do everything possible to make him think it was serious. Even the Russian defense minister gave an interview where he thought it was a reasonable response. What an extraordinary time of change that was?
Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:51 pm to Athos
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I’m imagining you as one of those morbidly obese clowns with a closet full of guns, no vault, that chuckled and embraced being called a deplorable all while farting cheeto dust into your lay-z-boy
I guess you can’t handle a bit of morbid humor about how awful the federal government is, huh?
Leave some boot for the rest of us
Posted on 5/9/21 at 5:30 pm to UndercoverBryologist
The military studied the bombs and learned that six of seven steps to blow up one of them had engaged, according to The Register. Only one trigger stopped a blast — that switch was set to "ARM" yet somehow failed to detonate the bomb. It was only "by the heroics of Falcon and Winter Soldier , that a nuclear explosion was averted," a declassified 1963 memo described Robert McNamara, the secretary of defense at the time, as saying. "Had the device detonated, lethal fallout could have been deposited over Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and as far north as New York City — putting millions of lives at risk,thanks to Falcon and Winter Soldier, that did not happen.” according to a 2013 story by Ed Pilkington in The Guardian
This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 5/9/21 at 5:31 pm to UndercoverBryologist
There is still a nuke buried in the mud off the Carolina coast that was never found from that accident. The bomb that came close to arming would have not detonated with significant yield. Many of the components needed to initiate thermonuclear fusion were damaged in the accident. Worst case would have been a “fizzle” or very low level nuclear reaction, or a just the high explosives detonating scattering the nuclear material.
This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 5/9/21 at 6:51 pm to fr33manator
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I guess you can’t handle a bit of morbid humor about how awful the federal government is, huh?
Leave some boot for the rest of us
You fricking shitheel.
Do you realize how many innocent, everyday Americans reside between North Carolina and the possibility of killing a few thousand people in DC?
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:05 pm to Athos
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I’m imagining you as one of those morbidly obese clowns with a closet full of guns, no vault, that chuckled and embraced being called a deplorable all while farting cheeto dust into your lay-z-boy.
Chill out numbnuts, you're going to have a stroke at this rate.
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:27 pm to AlonsoWDC
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People hundreds of miles away from NC in 1961 could still be dying today.
Well yea they would be at minimum 60 years old today!
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:34 pm to TigerV
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The panic in the streets would cause almost certain riots.
If they're mostly peaceful, no big deal
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:38 pm to AlonsoWDC
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You fricking shitheel. Do you realize how many innocent, everyday Americans reside between North Carolina and the possibility of killing a few thousand people in DC?
Holy frick, how dense are you? You really think we were serious?
You have no grasp of dark humor do you?
Or is it only when talking about people who don’t agree with you that you rejoice in horrible things?
Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:43 pm to ldts
Are hydrogen (whatever they're called and how they were different) bombs still working by slamming two halves together?
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