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re: Thanksgiving is time for the ***OFFICIAL*** 8th Annual JFK Assassination Conspiracy Thread

Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:53 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:53 pm to
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David Ferrie

My wife and I went to visit his grave once
I hope you left a carpet square on top of it as a tribute

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:58 pm to
Too much in the way of loose end tying up went on for this to be just one lone nut. All the way to Bobby getting taken down.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 5:19 am to
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Ruby shooting Oswald was a totally random event, he was not laying in wait for Oswald at the courthouse, he just happened to walk in at the same time Oswald was being moved. As another poster has already pointed out if any of a half dozen things Ruby did that morning had taken a minute longer he would have not arrived until after Oswald had left.


The more I read about Ruby, the more I agree with.this and think that he was a random nut who wasn't part of some bigger conspiracy.

Ruby's 'connections' to the mob were specious at best. He owned a club that a few members of OC frequented, but by and large was known as a guy who couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Hell, he left his dogs in his car when he parked.

He also had this grandiose idea that people might come to his club from all around the country and worship him as the guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

I'm inclined to believe that Ruby acted in a moment of rash insanity, and his background has been hyper-examined to where people have created this fictitious reality where he was a mob cleanup guy, when in actuality the guy - like Oswald - was just a loser.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:19 am to
Every time I see this picture, I almost piss on myself laughing:
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:24 am to
Kids:

Don’t drop acid.

Case in point:

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ThinePreparedAni
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:27 am to
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Agreed. Look at his behavior after the shooting. He wandered around Dallas aimlessly. He had no plan for escape and was readily apprehended. Why would a group supporting him allow him to be captured and questioned? They would have gotten him out of there or killed him before his arrest.


What good is a patsy if he's not caught??
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:32 am to
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ThinePreparedAni


This guy needs to be on a list.
Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:49 am to
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Are you talking about George Bush? Because he wasn’t director of the CIA until 1976.



That's funny. Is that what Google told you?
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:07 am to
I know who did it-- I saw it in a movie last night.

It was The Comedian.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38622 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:34 am to
You forget to list your mom.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:46 am to
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That's funny. Is that what Google told you?


Yep. I bet it wasn’t google that told you he was running the CIA at 38 or 39 years old in 1963, over spooks and insiders that had been operating since the end of WW2.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11310 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:25 am to
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This guy needs to be on a list.


Enters a conspiracy thread, gets criticized
Are only certain conspiracy theories allowed???

https://www.exopolitics.org/bombshell-qanon-posts-link-clintons-cia-to-jfk-jr-plane-crash/

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Bombshell QAnon Posts Link Clintons & CIA to JFK Jr Plane Crash
WRITTEN BY DR MICHAEL SALLA ON APRIL 10, 2018.
POSTED IN EXONEWS, FEATURED


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On April 8, QAnon posted two messages linking the Clintons and the CIA to the plane crash of John F. Kennedy Jr and how his death cleared the path for Hillary Clinton to start her political career by running unopposed by any major Democratic rival for the newly available US Senate seat for New York.

If the Clintons were involved in the death of JFK Jr it would be ironic since Bill Clinton sought to find out who killed President Kennedy just before his inauguration in January 1993, presumably to avoid a similar fate. The answers he received later helped Hillary Clinton launch her political career.






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The link was to a January 1956 document in the CIA’s reading room that discussed an Earth Satellite Program that was linked to Guided Missiles and CIA operations. CIA Director Allen Dulles was mentioned as a part of the program.




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In the book, Kennedy’s Last Stand, I analyzed the testimonies, circumstances and documents supporting the conclusion that Dulles had arranged for the MJ-12 directives to be applied to the Kennedy administration in general, and to President Kennedy in particular. The CIA’s Counter Intelligence chief, James Jesus Angleton, was given the authority to carry out the MJ-12 directives, as documented in a leaked November 12, 1963 Memorandum released only 10 days before Kennedy’s assassination.




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The Top Secret Memorandum instructed the then Director of the CIA, John McCone, to share all classified UFO information with NASA, in order to fulfill its requirement as outlined in National Security Action Memorandum (NSAM) 271.

In short, the two memoranda Kennedy issued on November 12, 1963 would ensure that access to classified UFO files would be extended to more government agencies, ultimately resulting in direct Presidential access.

Such direct access had been denied to President Kennedy by McCone’s predecessor, Allen Dulles, who retired as CIA Director in November 1961, but likely continued on in his other position as head of the MJ-12 Committee as suggested in the eight MJ-12 Policy Directives.

It’s feasible that the MJ-12 Directives drafted by Dulles and approved by the MJ-12 Committee were used not only for the 1963 assassination of President Kennedy, but also for the removal of his son, 36 years later.


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Just before beginning his first term on January 20, 1993, President-Elect Clinton made a very strange request to close family friend and lawyer Webster Hubbell: “If I put you over there in justice I want you to find the answer to two questions for me: One, who killed JFK. And two, are there UFOs.” According to Hubbell, who described the incident in his memoirs, Friends in High Places, “Clinton was dead serious.” Hubble said that he was unsuccessful in finding satisfactory answers. He was eventually forced to resign as Associate Attorney General due to the Whitewater political scandal and was jailed in July 1995 for 18 months.

The Clintons quickly learned, because of what had happened to Hubble, that the Deep State, through the CIA and mysterious policy groups like Majestic 12, had great power. Despite all his power as President, Clinton could not thwart the Deep State’s plans. The Clintons decided to end their efforts to get answers to questions concerning JFK’s assassination and what lay behind the UFO phenomenon. This was despite them knowing that the CIA drug running operations was secretly funding highly classified aerospace programs.

By the end of Bill’s Presidency, the CIA’s “unofficial” black budget was estimated to be as much as one trillion dollars annually, which was more than double the Pentagon’s budget at the time.

The Clintons had become a critical part of the CIA/MJ-12 operations at both state and national levels during Bill’s political career. As Bill’s Presidency wound down, Hillary’s political career offered another opportunity for a compliant and heavily compromised political leader that would support the CIA’s illicit fund raising for secret MJ-12 operations.


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Secret deals were subsequently struck and the CIA/MJ-12 (aka Deep State) supported Hillary’s rise to political power, and the New York Senate Seat was planned to be her launching pad for high political office.



This should clarify why so many folks die around the Clintons and why they have been untouchable

The other topics I post about (mainly in other threads) are intimately connected to the superficial political machinations...
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 11:57 am to
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This should clarify why so many folks die around the Clintons and why they have been untouchable



Interesting take. The Clinton Death List conspiracy theories have been around for 25 years, but they always assumed Bill and Hillary were the ones calling the shots.

Never heard the theory that the Deep State was killing the people on the list and the Clintons were simply keeping quiet to avoid being next.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11310 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 12:13 pm to
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Deep State


Seperate thread discussing:

Secret space program (in the setting of Trump Space force)
Missing 21 trillion (Michigan State study included)
Recent/strange aerospace events (reported on by NY Times)

Some strange is afoot /incoming...

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/ny-times-the-pentagons-ufo-program---q-spin-off-for-aerospace---esoteric-discussion/74223344/


NY Times

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Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program



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By HELENE COOPER, RALPH BLUMENTHAL and LESLIE KEAN
DECEMBER 16, 2017

WASHINGTON — In the $600 billion annual Defense Department budgets, the $22 million spent on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was almost impossible to find. Which was how the Pentagon wanted it. For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.


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“We’re sort of in the position of what would happen if you gave Leonardo da Vinci a garage-door opener,” said Harold E. Puthoff, an engineer who has conducted research on extrasensory perception for the C.I.A. and later worked as a contractor for the program. “First of all, he’d try to figure out what is this plastic stuff. He wouldn’t know anything about the electromagnetic signals involved or its function.” The program collected video and audio recordings of reported U.F.O. incidents, including footage from a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet showing an aircraft surrounded by some kind of glowing aura traveling at high speed and rotating as it moves. The Navy pilots can be heard trying to understand what they are seeing. “There’s a whole fleet of them,” one exclaims. Defense officials declined to release the location and date of the incident.


Vid at site/article

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By 2009, Mr. Reid decided that the program had made such extraordinary discoveries that he argued for heightened security to protect it. “Much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace-related findings,” Mr. Reid said in a letter to William Lynn III, a deputy defense secretary at the time, requesting that it be designated a “restricted special access program” limited to a few listed officials. A 2009 Pentagon briefing summary of the program prepared by its director at the time asserted that “what was considered science fiction is now science fact,” and that the United States was incapable of defending itself against some of the technologies discovered. Mr. Reid’s request for the special designation was denied.




In the background of this:

npr

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Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit Of The Department Of Defense

December 8, 201712:20 PM ET


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"The Defense Department is starting the first agency-wide financial audit in its history," the Pentagon's news service says, announcing that it's undertaking an immense task that has been sought, promised and delayed for years.

Of the tally that is starting this week, chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana W. White said, "It demonstrates our commitment to fiscal responsibility and maximizing the value of every taxpayer dollar that is entrusted to us."

"Beginning in 2018, our audits will occur annually, with reports issued Nov. 15," the Defense Department's comptroller, David L. Norquist, said.




As this relates to this (which I posted about earlier in the thread):



msu article about above

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Earlier this year, a Michigan State University economist, working with graduate students and a former government official, found $21 trillion in unauthorized spending in the departments of Defense and Housing and Urban Development for the years 1998-2015.

The work of Mark Skidmore and his team, which included digging into government websites and repeated queries to U.S. agencies that went unanswered, coincided with the Office of Inspector General, at one point, disabling the links to all key documents showing the unsupported spending. (Luckily, the researchers downloaded and stored the documents.)

Now, the Department of Defense has announced it will conduct the first department-wide, independent financial audit in its history (read the Dec. 7 announcement here).

The Defense Department did not say specifically what led to the audit. But the announcement came four days after Skidmore discussed his team’s findings on USAWatchdog, a news outlet run by former CNN and ABC News correspondent Greg Hunter.


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Skidmore and Fitts agreed to work together to investigate the issue further. Over the summer, two MSU graduate students searched government websites, especially the website of the Office of Inspector General, looking for similar documents dating to 1998. They found documents indicating a total $21 trillion in undocumented adjustments over the 1998-2015 period. (The original government documents and a report describing the issue can be found here.)

Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 12:14 pm to
Just presenting info
No time for silly labels or cognitive dissonance

Make of it what you will...


Huff Post

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Military Report: UFOs May Have Attempted Rendezvous With Giant Undersea Object
Ed Mazza 1 day ago


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New details are emerging about a UFO sighting recorded by the U.S. military in the waters off the coast of California 14 years ago.

The 2004 incident involving the “Tic Tac” UFO, named because it was a fast-moving white object that resembled one of the mints, was first revealed late last year by The New York Times and The Washington Post.

KLAS, the CBS affiliate in Las Vegas, obtained a copy of a report “prepared by and for the military” in 2009 that details multiple interactions with anomalous aerial vehicles (AAVs) over two weeks in late 2004. The report also discussed the high speed and advanced cloaking capabilities that allowed the AAVs to evade observation and detection.

“The AAVs would descend ‘very rapidly’ from approximately 60,000 feet down to approximately 50 feet in a matter of seconds,” the report noted. Pilots indicated there may have been something in the water as well. One pilot detailed a disturbance up to the size of a football field:


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The disturbed area also resembled shoal water around “a barely submerged reef or island,” but as the pilot flew away, he could see that the disturbance had cleared and seas calmed. Although he never made visual contact with whatever caused the disturbance, the report stated that it may have been caused by an AAV, which was unseen due to cloaking “or invisible to the human eye.”

Another pilot described a disturbance beneath the water of an AAV that “looked like frothy waves and foam almost as if the water was boiling.”

A submarine in the vicinity did not detect anything unusual underwater. If an object was indeed in the Pacific Ocean, “it would represent a highly advanced capability given the advanced capability of our sensors.”


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The videos of the “Tic Tac” UFO caused a sensation when they were first released last year as the Times reported on a secret Pentagon UFO program that has now concluded with no evidence of alien life visiting the Earth. However, Luis Elizondo, the former military intelligence official who led the program, indicated that there was more information the public had not yet seen.

“My personal belief is that there is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone,” he told CNN last December. Other possible explanations include advanced capabilities by the U.S. military or foreign governments that have not yet been made public.



https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/blog/an-official-presentation-on-the-history-of-aatip-and-current-state-of-affairs

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An Official Presentation on the History of AATIP and Current State of Affairs
August 30, 2018


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What I'd like to do tonight is just briefly go over a little bit about the program. A little bit of the history, what it is, what it isn't. Then maybe, where do we go next? What do we do? As you see here, Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program; it is indeed aerospace. I know some folks that said aviation, some folks at the Pentagon said aviation. I can assure you here tonight, it is indeed Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, AATIP.


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Multi-medium travel. Why would that be important? Again, you see here there is some strategic surprise meaning you now have an object that can operate in air, water, space. Probably gives you some target flexibility. And a last but not least, battle-space dominance meaning you can operate in virtually all environments, any time, anywhere. Then the last one is positive lift. Of course, why would that be important? As we see here, we're looking at flight perception. I do not have to be moving like an aircraft to generate lift under my wings. That would be a tremendous benefit. Loiter capability, I can stay on time, on target for longer. Then last but not least, decreased signature. So, you can see these focus areas are really DOD-centric. They are part of the core DOD mission both from a defensive and offensive perspective. This is how those fives observables that we saw the commonalities if you will, how they fit within the DOD mission because some people will ask you, "Why was DOD looking at this? Shouldn't NASA be looking at it?" Well sure, NASA could look at it but so should we. Next slide please I guess that's me. I'm hearing whispers behind the curtain, "That's you."


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I am confident and I'm cautiously optimistic that in the next year we are going to have a fundamentally different conversation than we're having today. I think there's going to be additional fidelity to a lot of the things that have come out recently that are going be able to ... having sound trouble. That are going to help us have a better understanding of what it is we're actually seeing here."
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7349 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 12:33 pm to
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I still think that Oswald killed the cop who pulled him over (in south Dallas) showed the guy had lost his mind, and that seems to be subtracted from the conversation about his mindstate


The cop was reported to have been seen with Ruby and Oswald at different times.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60670 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 12:51 pm to
Jackie did it. I say this every year and no one believes me.

She gets him to lean in so she can whisper something i n his ear, and then she blows his brains out with a small revolver. The visible exit wound motion is proof.
This post was edited on 11/23/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61817 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 12:55 pm to
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#1 If you believe in a conspiracy then you believe that Ruth Payne was involved. She had to be since she was Oswald's connection to get a job at the Book Depository. You also must believe that Roy Truly, the man who hired Oswald there, was involved.
Why is that? I mean, he got the job and access he wanted to be in the right place. That doesn't mean they knew his ulterior motives
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:06 pm to
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I can see how a US citizen could renounce their citizenship and move to Russia. I don’t see how someone who has done that can then simply return to the US, Russian wife in tow, at the height of the Cold War. Certainly not without having some connections somewhere, that the public has not been made aware of.


No only that, but the State Department paid for his return trip! AFTER he had offered the Soviets radar secrets in return for citizenship.

That the government paid for his trip back and didn’t put him in jail for desertion much less treason has always been the biggest red flag that Oswald was some kind of intelligence affiliate.

Then look into George de Mohrenschildt. Lee’s only friend in DFW. He was a White Russian anti-communist and known CIA operative. And that’s supposed communist Oswald’s only friend?!
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60670 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:33 pm to
I knew the Floyd was a window into your madness. And I love Floyd. Didn't know they were an illuminati band who were in on the fact that the moon is fake.

Keep it in the Q thread, you crazy bitch.
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