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re: Texas man dies in police custody after being arrested on misdemeanor marijuana charges
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:20 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:20 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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You're calling people fools for forming their own opinion
No, I'm calling them fools for assuming guilt and negligence when we don't even have a cause of death.
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People tend to get defensive when you call them fools. So yeah, maybe lighten up. It's ok to speculate. It's not hurting anybody.
You seen some of things I've been called here?
why single me out? In fact, if you go back and read the thread, I didn't start the name calling. So again, why are you singling me out?
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 3:26 pm
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:21 pm to NorthTxLSU
Another news article 4/2/21
Lee Merritt is the family attorney
Why is it the cops responsibility to take him to a clinic especially after the ER discharges him?
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Scott also had mental illness that frequently put him in contact with local police. Scott had been diagnosed with schizophrenia, his family said, and in the past, police had taken him to get medical care when he had a crisis.
“He had been arrested several times before where he was taken to a clinic, given his meds and then released,” Merritt said in a news conference streamed by KXAS-TV.
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On March 14, Scott once again ended up in police custody, this time after he was observed acting strangely in the Allen Premium Outlets, a mall in suburban Dallas, and then allegedly found with a small amount of marijuana. Police initially took him to a hospital, Merritt said, but unlike in previous cases, they then took him to the Collin County Jail instead of a local mental health center.
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He was booked into the jail around 6:40 p.m., Skinner said at a news conference. According to Merritt, he was put into a cell with eight other people, but later moved into an isolation cell. When the jail staff feared that he might hurt himself, they sent in seven officers to restrain him, Merritt said.
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Video of the encounter shows one officer applying an “illegal choke hold” as the others fought to tie down his arms, Merritt alleged. Skinner confirmed that video was taken of the struggle and said the officers used pepper spray once and restrained Scott in a bed.
He declined to discuss any other details about the video recording, pending the ongoing investigation.
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“Evidence I have seen confirms that these detention officers violated well-established Sheriff’s Office policies and procedures,”
Lee Merritt is the family attorney
Why is it the cops responsibility to take him to a clinic especially after the ER discharges him?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:21 pm to NorthTxLSU
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unless this guy just happened to drop dead of natural causes coincidentally in custody
Why is this some crazy unlikely scenario? It's a more likely scenario than the cops all decided to kill this guy for no reason.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:22 pm to NorthTxLSU
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no, that’s not how it goes.
Yes, yes it does and it doesn't take much effort to find something like 2000 cases of cops being fired on the spot for incidents like this then appealing and eventually being rehired.
You're just attempting to paint some broad conspiracy that they knew what happened when that factually inaccurate.
Like I said before you knee jerk fools should just allow for actual facts to come out as opposed to the overinflated hyperbole..
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:22 pm to LSUJML
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Why is it the cops responsibility to take him to a clinic especially after the ER discharges him?
It's not. They usually see a doc in the jail or send them out later.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:30 pm to LNCHBOX
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No, I'm calling them fools for assuming guilt and negligence when we don't even have a cause of death.
Right, they formed an opinion based off the chain of events described in an article. No cause of death given, you keep stressing that point. And maintaining that you CANNOT form an opinion without a cause of death. Yeah, we all can. Some may even decide to guess what they think the cause of death will end up being. So what? It's not like any of us can harm anyone in doing so. We aren't the jury. We are guessing.
Here's my guess. I think it's possible that the guy could have died of natural causes. A death that would have occurred whether he was arrested and in custody or at home in bed. No foul play. And the cops got fired because they could have violated some sort of failure to check on someone in custody. Maybe they skipped "check-ins". And if they would have checked in on him like they were supposed to they could have intervened and saved his life. Could be as simple as that.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:30 pm to LNCHBOX
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I'm calling them fools for assuming guilt and negligence when we don't even have a cause of death.
You're assuming someone is a fool based on their take on this one subject. That must be big brain assumptions, not simple minded assumptions.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:31 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Right, they formed an opinion based off the chain of events described in an article. No cause of death given, you keep stressing that point. And maintaining that you CANNOT form an opinion without a cause of death. Yeah, we all can. Some may even decide to guess what they think the cause of death will end up being. So what? It's not like any of us can harm anyone in doing so. We aren't the jury. We are guessing.
All I'm asking is why are you singling me out and telling me to lighten up when I didn't start it?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:32 pm to GRTiger
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You're assuming someone is a fool based on their take on this one subject. That must be big brain assumptions, not simple minded assumptions.
Is this your new thing? You did this with Salmon yesterday I think. It's pretty lame fwiw.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:35 pm to LNCHBOX
What did I do with Salmon? You made the ridiculous statement that "assumptions are for simple minds" which deserved some ridicule, because it was condescending and dumb.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:37 pm to GRTiger
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What did I do with Salmon? You made the ridiculous statement that "assumptions are for simple minds" which deserved some ridicule, because it was condescending and dumb.
The assumptions being made in this thread are dumb
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:40 pm to LNCHBOX
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All I'm asking is why are you singling me out and telling me to lighten up when I didn't start it?
Sorry if I'm singling you out. You seemed to be the most vocal and argumentative about it.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:41 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Sorry if I'm singling you out. You seemed to be the most vocal and argumentative about it.
I'm more vocal and need to lighten up more than the guy that said "frick you" to someone?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:42 pm to NorthTxLSU
Now do the story on the 3 year old black kid, killed by a drive by shooting. Or the one, the other night where a 4 year old shot a 5 year old black child.
I'll be waiting anxiously for these stories.
I'll be waiting anxiously for these stories.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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I'm more vocal and need to lighten up more than the guy that said "frick you" to someone?
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The assumptions being made in this thread are dumb
You being more vocal and making statements like the one above is what's causing someone to say "frick you". As I said before, people tend to get defensive when you call them fools.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:46 pm to stlslick
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Now do the story on the 3 year old black kid, killed by a drive by shooting. Or the one, the other night where a 4 year old shot a 5 year old black child.
I'll be waiting anxiously for these stories.
Good luck with that. I thought about commenting on how I found it interesting that OP started this thread right around the time this thread about an officer being shot during a traffic stop was started. One of these situations is much easier to make judgments on than the other. Unsurprisingly that situation's thread is only one page and has fallen off the first page of tOT (OP and other with his mindset are of course absent from it as well).
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:47 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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You being more vocal and making statements like the one above is what's causing someone to say "frick you". As I said before, people tend to get defensive when you call them fools.
Why do you excuse their defensiveness but when I'm called bootlicker and other fun things, it's just no big deal? I don't get to be defensive to name calling?
ETA I will again invite you to go back and read the first couple pages of this thread.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:48 pm to GRTiger
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You're assuming someone is a fool based on their take on this one subject.
It's pretty easy to see who is rational and who is emotional.
And yes, those who make decisions based on simple emotion are fools.
These cases are never black/white.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:50 pm to NorthTxLSU
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NorthTxLSU
Without discussing the content in the OP because I have no opinion yet, your posts in this thread lead me to believe that you've had quite a few "run ins" with the police yourself...
Cops are all assholes and dickheads! They keep arresting me!
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:54 pm to LNCHBOX
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Why do you excuse their defensiveness but when I'm called bootlicker and other fun things, it's just no big deal? I don't get to be defensive to name calling?
I don't excuse it. I just didn't comment on it. I'm guilty of name calling on here from time to time, admittedly. I think most of us have at some point.
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