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Texas High School expels student for not reciting pledge
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:46 pm
Here's a good old fashioned first amendment case making its way through the courts...
Texas Tribune
It should also be noted that a Supreme Court ruling in 1943 says that students cant be expelled for not saying the pledge.
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What say the OT?
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The morning of Oct. 2, 2017 was not the first time that India Landry, a senior at Windfern High School outside Houston, refused to stand when the Pledge of Allegiance came on over the intercom.
The protest had gotten her kicked out of her English class five times; her law teacher told her she was disrespectful, according to a 2017 lawsuit. But on that October morning, when the then-17-year-old refused to stand, she was expelled.
Landry, who is black and had sat through the daily Pledge of Allegiance some 200 times as a form of protest, was sitting in the principal’s office that morning when the pledge rang through over the intercom. When she failed to stand, court documents allege, Principal Martha Strother told her, “Well, you’re kicked outta here.”
“This is not the NFL,” the principal’s secretary told her, according to court documents.
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That expulsion — which a court filing says was reversed days later with little explanation — has sparked a legal battle that this week expanded to include Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who intervened in the case on Tuesday.
As tensions mount nationally over football players who kneel during the national anthem at televised games, the issue has become a new front in Texas’ culture wars. Randall Kallinen, Landry’s lawyer, is representing two Houston-area students who say administrators punished them after they after they sat through the pledge as a form of protest. Landry and Kallinen argue that a state law requiring students to stand for the pledge of allegiance violates her First Amendment right to free speech. The district declined to comment on pending litigation.
The Texas Education Code states that schools “shall require students, once during each school day at each campus,” to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. But it also directs schools to “excuse the student” from reciting the pledge “on written request from a student’s parent or guardian.”
The teenager’s mother, Kizzy Landry, was supportive of her daughter’s protest, Kallinen said, though the lawyer could not recall whether she had filed a written statement with the school.
In any case, Kallinen argues in court documents, the principal “said that sitting was disrespectful and would not be allowed.”
The law, Kallinen argues, violates students’ free speech rights even though it offers parents the chance to opt out.
Texas Tribune
It should also be noted that a Supreme Court ruling in 1943 says that students cant be expelled for not saying the pledge.
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West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment protects students from being forced to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance in public school. The Court's 6–3 decision, delivered by Justice Robert H. Jackson, is remembered for its forceful defense of free speech and constitutional rights generally as being placed "beyond the reach of majorities and officials".
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What say the OT?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:47 pm to NYNolaguy1
Mom put her up to it
Sad using kids as tools
Sad using kids as tools
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:47 pm to NYNolaguy1
Principal is a complete idiot.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:47 pm to NYNolaguy1
Always thought pledging allegiance to a flag was weird to being with.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:48 pm to NYNolaguy1
We should send these America haters to prison
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:48 pm to NYNolaguy1
I say separation of Church and State.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:48 pm to Duke
quote:"Small government conservatives" sure seem to like unthinking fealty to a sovereign nation and think it should be demanded of minors.
Always thought pledging allegiance to a flag was weird to being with.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:50 pm to NYNolaguy1
If it's a public school I think the girl has a case. Private school? frick off and go somewhere else
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
First off, frick her.
Second, why the hell is she sitting for the pledge?
She probably doesn’t even know. Just trying look like something. Ask her if she’d rather live in another country. If so, send her and her supportive family there. One way ticket with no chance of return.
Second, why the hell is she sitting for the pledge?
She probably doesn’t even know. Just trying look like something. Ask her if she’d rather live in another country. If so, send her and her supportive family there. One way ticket with no chance of return.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:52 pm to fallguy_1978
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If it's a public school I think the girl has a case.
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Windfern High School is a public secondary school located in unincorporated Harris County, Texas, United States. Windfern High School, often referred to as The Lighthouse, is a campus of choice in the Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:52 pm to Cosmo
She was 17 and you think the mom put her up to it? 

Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:52 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:It's a public school.
If it's a public school
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:53 pm to Cosmo
quote:that's what you get out of this case? You are a small minded imbecile. One giant problem with this country is that govt officials aren't thrown into prison when they violate our rights as they violated this girl's right not to recite as stupid, meaningless pledge. It's mindboggling this country is so stupid and simple minded that it ever developed this ridiculous pledge crap.
Sad using kids as tools
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:53 pm to TigahTeeth
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She probably doesn’t even know. Just trying look like something. Ask her if she’d rather live in another country. If so, send her and her supportive family there. One way ticket with no chance of return.
Yeah ship out US citizens for exercising their rights!
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:55 pm to TH03
No, ship out citizens who act disgusted to be a citizen. If it’s so damn bad, then get the frick out. It’s a HUGE world.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:57 pm to TigahTeeth
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No, ship out citizens who act disgusted to be a citizen. If it’s so damn bad, then get the frick out.
I always find it a little disappointing when citizens of this country hate the rights they have. Its really a disservice to the people who died to defend the right to disagree and freedom of expression.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:57 pm to TigahTeeth
Or just leave citizens alone. It's not mandatory to recite the pledge. Reciting or not reciting the pledge doesn't reflect on your personhood at all.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:lololol
When she failed to stand, court documents allege, Principal Martha Strother told her, “Well, you’re kicked outta here.”
“This is not the NFL,” the principal’s secretary told her, according to court documents
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:58 pm to crazy4lsu
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It's not mandatory to recite the pledge.
It seems one branch of Texas govt disagrees.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 4:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
The stupidest part of this is that students are allowed to avoid standing if they have a signed permission slip from their parents. This girl's mother came to the school and told them "She has my permission." The principal told her that didn't matter.
This whole lawsuit could have been avoided by giving the mom a form, saying "Here, sign this then," and allowing everyone to get back to what they were doing. The principal chose a very poor hill to die on.
This whole lawsuit could have been avoided by giving the mom a form, saying "Here, sign this then," and allowing everyone to get back to what they were doing. The principal chose a very poor hill to die on.
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