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re: Texas bill: under 18 banned from social media
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:30 am to Geauxgurt
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:30 am to Geauxgurt
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But I thought Europeans were the thought police and censors
They are. What does policing thoughts and opinions have to do with shielding minors from something we know is harmful?
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:34 am to ATrillionaire
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Can you list some companies that have the state/local interest at heart?
Plenty of local businesses all over the country care about their community and the people in it, even if it is a mix of self interest and community investment.
Facebook does not care about the impacts of the algos on a depressed 14 year old girl in Plano, however.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:34 am to BabyTac
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Government over reach much? Are they playing the job of parents now???
The government says my kids can drive till they’re 16. Can’t smoke till they’re 18 and can’t drink till they’re 21. Hell, in Louisiana you can’t even log on to pornhub without verifying your age. How is this any different?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:35 am to LemmyLives
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but it should be a safe space separated from adults.
You think the adults are the fricking problem on social media with kids?
This. Kids, mostly unsupervised, are brutal to each other on every social media platform.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:37 am to BabyTac
Taking social media out of the hands of kids is tremendously good. Their minds aren’t processing the constant bombardment and addictive aspects of it. It is doing an absolute number on their health. It’s why my 12 year old won’t get a smartphone for another 3-4 years and no social media accounts before that time as well.
His school banned all phones during school hours next year so that’s very helpful to the parents like us choosing not to give their kids unfettered access to to phones all day.
With that said it should be a parent or school restricting it, not the government.
His school banned all phones during school hours next year so that’s very helpful to the parents like us choosing not to give their kids unfettered access to to phones all day.
With that said it should be a parent or school restricting it, not the government.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:38 am to St Augustine
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His school banned all phones during school hours next year
Good. This should happen nationwide.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:39 am to St Augustine
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With that said it should be a parent or school restricting it, not the government.
What’s the difference between the school and the government restricting it?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:40 am to BabyTac
I think 18 is too old, but I'm not against something like this for 14 and under. We already have similar rules for kids that are under the age of reason (alcohol, drugs, guns, ect).
Trust me, I'm all for freedom, and would love nothing more than to open it all up, but that's not happening, so if we don't trust kids with guns, why are we trusting them with social media?
Trust me, I'm all for freedom, and would love nothing more than to open it all up, but that's not happening, so if we don't trust kids with guns, why are we trusting them with social media?
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:44 am to HeadCall
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What’s the difference between the school and the government restricting it?
Well for one i send all my kids to private school so I’m aligned with their views on a lot of things.
But have you been to a public middle/high school lately? Do you know anyone that has to deal with these kids? They’re on this shite 24/7 and it’s disruptive. I don’t think it’s an overreach to not allow these things within the school day.
Plenty of shite has been banned during the school day over the course of history.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 11:45 am
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:47 am to St Augustine
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But have you been to a public middle/high school lately? Do you know anyone that has to deal with these kids? They’re on this shite 24/7 and it’s disruptive. I don’t think it’s an overreach to not allow these things within the school day.
I have one that’s a freshman in college and another that’s still a junior in HS. Public school in Louisiana by the way. Neither of them have ever been allowed to use their phones during the school day.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:50 am to diat150
quote:this.
social media really fricks some kids up.
eta: I generally agree that we need less laws not more, anti govern me harder daddy etc.....but I put social media in the same bucket as drugs & alcohol. We age restrict those things because they are harmful to kids and they don't know how to regulate themselves well enough to avoid harming themselves and others. I view this as in that category. I could see there being a bad secondary effect of sending kids to underground social media sites that are poorly monitored so that's the only reason why it's probably a bad idea, but I definitely agree that kids should not be on social media and that the cons outweigh the pros.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:50 am to HeadCall
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I have one that’s a freshman in college and another that’s still a junior in HS. Public school in Louisiana by the way. Neither of them have ever been allowed to use their phones during the school day.
Great job. But now do all the rest of the parents that don’t give a shite. Everyone bitches about schools, distractions, etc. but then gets affronted when a school/district wants to do something that is damn near universally thought to be beneficial for developing minds. A smart phone in school isn’t a necessity or a right.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:55 am to When in Rome
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.but I put social media in the same bucket as drugs & alcohol. We age restrict those things because they are harmful to kids and they don't know regulate themselves well enough to avoid harming themselves and others. I view this as in that category
I think it’s close.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:56 am to St Augustine
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Great job. But now do all the rest of the parents that don’t give a shite. Everyone bitches about schools, distractions, etc. but then gets affronted when a school/district wants to do something that is damn near universally thought to be beneficial for developing minds. A smart phone in school isn’t a necessity or a right.
I agree. I also agree the government should tell parents and children that kids under 18 can’t have social media. Hell, I’d be in support of banning cell phones entirely for those under 18 so all the helicopter Karens out there can’t stalk their kids on Life360 like a bunch of psychos anymore.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:57 am to LemmyLives
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Read the terms of service. Have you noticed that nearly everything asks you if you're at least 13 before signing up?
And it’s like you mentioned is basically on the honor system which seems to be difference with this bill as it requires active validation of being 18 or older by the social media companies.
Since this bill’s focus is the social media companies not the kids or parents I would better understand concerns over its implications of requiring any account to have to verify being 18 or above with the limited options big tech has pushed which currently push to much info out including uploading DL for some. The below 18 limit is not much different than any other limits based on age and being a minor.
They should be able to adapt process Apple, google, or similar companies use to verify user is an actual person to verify age is 18 or above when using login without requiring any additional information handed out. Covid contact tracking, verifying a person, and knowing & selling almost everything about people, but little work on simply verifying to 3rd parties that an account creator is 18 or above without sharing any other info.
I think the OT has missed the actual issue.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Then keep your kids off of it. Extremely simple concept
Social media is harmful to children.
How do you differentiate the government preventing children from accessing drugs, alcohol, and operating vehicles from something like social media? What exactly is overreach and what isn't in your opinion?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Then keep your kids off of it. Extremely simple concept
Do you have kids especially any aged 12 and up?
I am also assuming you never did anything your parents tried to enforce on you not to do…
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:11 pm to BabyTac
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Government over reach much? Are they playing the job of parents now?
They already do this with alcohol, tattoos, driving.
What is the downside or negatives of a child not being allowed on social media?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:12 pm to BabyTac
I'm fine with it. Social media should be banned for minors nationwide.
The harms outweigh the good.
To all those crying free-speech, the Government may regulate speech through time, place, and/or manner restrictions. The laws the restrict speech must be
1. Narrowly tailored
2. Content-neutral
3. Alternative Channels
See the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA), which already bans social media for those under 13.
Extend it to 17.
The harms outweigh the good.
To all those crying free-speech, the Government may regulate speech through time, place, and/or manner restrictions. The laws the restrict speech must be
1. Narrowly tailored
2. Content-neutral
3. Alternative Channels
See the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA), which already bans social media for those under 13.
Extend it to 17.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 12:17 pm
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