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re: Tesla says fatal crash on Hwy 101 in Mountain View, CA involved Autopilot
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:52 pm to SG_Geaux
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:52 pm to SG_Geaux
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Seriously? YOU are responsible for what your car does when you are behind the wheel. No one else.
Watch the video. It's obvious the car got confused by the line in the pavement and instead of following the white shoulder line it drove the car directly into the barrier.
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Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:54 pm to Mud_Till_May
quote:the driver had enough time to react though, right?
Watch the video. It's obvious the car got confused by the line in the pavement and instead of following the white shoulder line it drove the car directly into the barrier.
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 3/31/18 at 8:21 pm to MaroonIntruder
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As long as the driver is the only casualty im fine with people dying by robot.
So essentially the fail safe works.
Wonder when elon will be driving in one of these full time. Or if he'd trust his driver to be in full auto mode.
To many factors outside of th tech part in play here to be perfect anytime soon. With AZ looking at new laws that'll hurt progress as they were a "testing" friendly state.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 8:44 pm to Street Hawk
Another dumbass millennial who thinks technology is better than the human brain.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 8:59 pm to fightin tigers
I drove with autopilot on (Test drive) for about 10 mins. It did everything right including negotiating bad drivers who don’t know know how to merge on the freeway. But even the sales guy didn’t sell it as completely autonomous. You have to pay attention constantly.
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:01 pm to Mud_Till_May
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It's obvious the car got confused by the line in the pavement and instead of following the white shoulder line it drove the car directly into the barrier.
And? That has nothing to do with his point.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:19 pm to Mud_Till_May
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It's obvious the car got confused by the line in the pavement and instead of following the white shoulder line it drove the car directly into the barrier.
So? If there is a steering wheel and pedals, you are responsible for the car.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:32 pm to elprez00
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I’m wiling to bet the rate of accidents per mile driven by an autonomous car is miniscule compared to one without. You’ll never be able to engineer out every contingency. But it’s still a hell of a lot better than an idiot on their phone.
Agreed, any autonomous car is already safer than the average human driving while using a cell phone. For some reason many people think if these cars are incapable of operating with zero accidents they are a failure, I guess these people never fly.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:34 pm to EA6B
Change scares them.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:57 pm to Street Hawk
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Huang's family reported that he alerted Tesla's service department to a big problem with his Model X's Autopilot. As the Mercury News reported, Huang's family asserted that he "had taken the car to a dealer several times and complained that the function kept steering the car toward the highway divider into which he crashed."
So he continued to use it?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:20 pm to drexyl
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i can't believe people are willing to be the beta test on a robot car. i think we'll eventually get there but it is way fricking early to hand over control to a robot at 90 mph on the fricking freewa
Not many times you can do 90 on the 101 anywhere between San Jose and San Francisco.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 4/1/18 at 2:02 pm to Sayre
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Not many times you can do 90 on the 101 anywhere between San Jose and San Francisto.
And that’s precisely when autopilot is helpful. In bumper to bumper traffic where you don’t need to be as attentive.
Posted on 4/1/18 at 2:34 pm to Street Hawk
In the 1880s, there were several incidents in which workers of Edison General Electric and other early electrical companies burned alive from electrocution on the streets of New York. We were still using DC, which was more dangerous, and workers didn't really understand the basics of electricity yet. These incidents were horrific scenes. Blue flames would emanate from their bodies and their charred corpses would fall lifeless to the street as hundreds or thousands of passersby watched in stunned silence.
Obviously, electricity took root despite these incidents. Two steps forward, one step back ...
Obviously, electricity took root despite these incidents. Two steps forward, one step back ...
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 4/1/18 at 2:39 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Just more shite to break on.a car. Have fun spending thousands when the electronics goes bad.
Posted on 4/1/18 at 2:47 pm to TxTiger82
A TD thread about electricity in 1880 would have looked the same. “No way this ever takes off. What about all the details? I’m sticking with my gas lamp here (violent nodding of heads in agreement)”
Etc etc
Etc etc
Posted on 4/1/18 at 3:57 pm to S1C EM
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can't believe they trust it enough to not pay more attention and be ready to take control back in an instant. I would be on pins and needles.
Hell, I’m on pins and needles just riding with another human. I’m not comfortable when I don’t have control of a vehicle. I’m terrible about trying to press the brakes on the passenger side. I can’t even imagine turning loose of the wheel and giving a computer control
Posted on 4/1/18 at 4:33 pm to Street Hawk
I want nothing more than to be able to shuffle into the backseat of my car on Monday morning when I’m hungover/beat down AF and catch a few more minutes of rest while my car drives me to work.
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:40 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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A TD thread about electricity in 1880 would have looked the same. “No way this ever takes off. What about all the details? I’m sticking with my gas lamp here (violent nodding of heads in agreement)”
Yep, and lots of people around America had that very reaction to electricity! It was expensive, logistically difficult (DC requires a generator to be close by), and dangerous (DC is more likely to electrocute a human than AC). Plus many people thought gas lamps were just fine -- no need for electricity.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:54 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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A TD thread about electricity in 1880 would have looked the same. “No way this ever takes off. What about all the details? I’m sticking with my gas lamp here (violent nodding of heads in agreement)”
I think most on here believe autonomous cars are likely the future.
Much like electricty in 1880, I think we are 50 years away from it being practical.
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:55 pm to AUsteriskPride
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So he continued to use it?
AND ignore warnings coming at his known trouble spot? That seems heavily on his shoulders if true.
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