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Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:10 pm to genuineLSUtiger
What head start? Building electric cars is much less complicated than building a gas vehicle
Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:17 pm to jimdog
Tesla and crypto currency are the some of the most recent things where sharps got their money in early and bailed when the fish started putting their money in. It’s amazing how I always miss out on those opportunities for fear of failure.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:17 pm to Sho Nuff
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The $35k version will do 210 miles I believe so it's just a matter of will they be able to hit 5k a week of those.
For some reason I was thinking they had a 300-mile range.
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But, it's the best looking electric car brand out there currently at that price range and with the speed and smart car features is unbeatable at $35k. I mean would you buy a Leaf or Volt or Model 3 for $35k
That's something Musk has done right. People don't want just an electric car that can perform well, they want one that looks great too. While the Volt is just "meh", the Lead is a little less desirable and the Prius is just fricking ugly. I can only imagine that somewhere a secret cabal of electric car designers got together and decided that anything they put out must be physically unappealing, nothing else explains it.
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That's gonna take a while and the landscape has already changed as many manufacturers are going electric because of Tesla. I can't wait to see the Porsche.
To go back to the criteria I listed, if he can get the price down to $30k (even with just a 200-ish mile range) and meet demand, he'll force the landscape to change. Prior to the Model T there wasn't a real need for "filling stations", but once Henry Ford was able to mass-produce these and sell them to the middle and lower classes, these stations penetrated into markets not long after the cars did.
Musk is in a unique situation. A year or three ago he showcased a setup that would change out a battery in under something like 2 minutes (average vehicle fill-up takes 5-10 minutes). By refocusing on smoothing out his production to meet demand (and then driving down costs), he could corner both the electric car market and the charging station market at the same time.
There is a large, waiting market there. He just has to reign himself in long enough to tap into it.
Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:20 pm to Bard
And I don’t think a Volt is as fast as a Ferrari
Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:53 pm to biglego
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And I don’t think a Volt is as fast as a Ferrari
Technically, neither is a Tesla, but it is quicker to certain speeds.
On the performance side IF the new Tesla Roadster even comes close to its suggested performance metrics it will be a supercar game changer.
0-60 in 1.9, 0-100 in 4.2 a 1/4 ET of 8.8 and a 250mph top speed.
Posted on 2/23/19 at 6:31 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Elon Musk has never been anything but an overhyped huckster hack and some of you stupid cucks eat his YAY CAPITALISM AND PRIVATIZATION bullshite up because of course you do.
Ah, this is where the bullshite parked.
Posted on 2/23/19 at 6:51 pm to Obtuse1
Holy shite that’s fast
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:09 pm to jimdog
Great ideas
Good tech
shite management.
Someone will buy it and run it better.
Good tech
shite management.
Someone will buy it and run it better.
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:26 pm to bmy
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He has already changed it forever. Check out 3.0 autopilot features
While it is arguable, it isn't even the best autopilot on the market.
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:28 pm to Sho Nuff
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The $35k version will do 210 miles I believe so it's just a matter of will they be able to hit 5k a week of those. They pushed back when those will be ready a few times already. But, it's the best looking electric car brand out there currently at that price range and with the speed and smart car features is unbeatable at $35k. I mean would you buy a Leaf or Volt or Model 3 for $35k?
If you mean pushed back you mean cancelled, yes that car was pushed back.
It isn't profitable by a long way and looks to be a long time until it will be. So much that TSLA has removed it as an option moving forward.
Even at $35k it will be extremely stripped down and made with far from premium materials and amenities.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:10 pm to biglego
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Holy shite that’s fast
The acceleration times are quick enough to make me question if they can be done with street tires. Making the power is one thing, hooking it up is a whole different bag of tricks. Even with an AWD car 0-60 in under 2.5s is pretty elusive on DOT rubber.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:56 am to fightin tigers
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While it is arguable, it isn't even the best autopilot on the market.
How many of the others can back you out of your driveway and take you to your GPS entered destination with almost zero user input like a tesla can? And how much do they cost? Link if possible cause I haven't seen it
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:31 pm to fightin tigers
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Not to mention Musk may have just violated his terms with the SEC, but I doubt anything comes of that.
Welp, appears something will come of this.
Musk is such a dumbass.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:32 pm to bmy
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How many of the others can back you out of your driveway and take you to your GPS entered destination with almost zero user input like a tesla can
None. And neither can a Tesla.
I mean, unless the dead bodies and multiple accounts of how it isn't the best autopilot aren't enough.
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Link if possible cause I haven't seen it
LINK
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:34 pm to fightin tigers
I don’t really follow Tesla or care one way or the other about it. Having said that, can someone explain to me why it’s success or failure is such a sensitive topic for so many here?
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:39 pm to Darth_Vader
Because the hype, honestly. And Musk is such a polarizing character.
A lot of the Tesla hypsters have no idea how hard what he is doing really is, or why the company is going to fail. They think 'it is our turn' is enough to forgive all the debt and turn a profit.
Incredible cars. Beautiful. Game altering. They are a billionaires play toy and transportation for the 1%. Tax breaks given on supercars.
The government subsidies and blah blah blah make him an easy target.
The lack of government subsidies are what will make the company fail.
A lot of the Tesla hypsters have no idea how hard what he is doing really is, or why the company is going to fail. They think 'it is our turn' is enough to forgive all the debt and turn a profit.
Incredible cars. Beautiful. Game altering. They are a billionaires play toy and transportation for the 1%. Tax breaks given on supercars.
The government subsidies and blah blah blah make him an easy target.
The lack of government subsidies are what will make the company fail.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:39 pm to jimdog
I bought some put options on TSLA before their last earnings announcement and got frickin rekt. Horrible earnings and they were up 10%. Makes no sense, but it’s a hype stock and the investors don’t care about the fundamentals. Needless to say, I paid a lot for that lesson.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:41 pm to Triple Bogey
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investors don’t care about the fundamentals.
I think most investors are looking at it like bitcoin now. No reasoning, just a popular topic stock that you can't predict.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:58 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:Almost invariably, the Tesla "haters" are conservative. There is a strong aversion among conservatives to anything that has to do with reducing our reliance on fossil fuels. That and/or they hate Tesla for taking advantage of subsidies that are available to the entire industry.
can someone explain to me why it’s success or failure is such a sensitive topic for so many here?
This is troubling because we have self-proclaimed America-loving people actively rooting for the failure of an American company that provides many high-paying jobs.
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