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re: Technology is getting out of control

Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:50 am to
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:50 am to
I have a buddy who can do all the work minus rebuilding an engine if I ever have issues on the side for a fraction(50-60%) of what BMW would cost problem is none of the work will be documented in the system like BMW does or uploaded to CarFax so the next buyer can verify the work that has been done.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10046 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 3:39 am to
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8063 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 6:09 am to
That's the kind of technology that makes vehicles unnecessarily expensive. Paying for development of that technology inflates the cost of a vehicle.

Posted by Dawginthewoods
Oconee National Forest
Member since Nov 2017
315 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 6:17 am to
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To save water


I laughed way to hard at this.
Posted by Rekamyah
Ovadalevee
Member since Jun 2008
1866 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:22 am to
Try 4 cat converters on my nissan vehicle at $962 each. That’s without labor for installation. Nissan says they should last from 80,000 to 100,000 miles. I am OC about maintenance on my vehicles and tend to keep them as long as possible. So now I have to budget $12,000 to $15,000 in the life of my vehicles for catalytic converters???!!!

Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:42 am to
So you know how you could buy 8 year old Jaguars, a $60,000 car when new, for like $8,000 at those used car lots on the side of the highway?

Yeah, that's going to be ALL car brands in the near future.

They are all doing this. All the cars are over-engineered, unnecessarily complicated and a total violation of the reliable and tried and true KISS principle.

You're likely going to see the value of vehicles built ~pre-2004 shoot up in value. The timeline of the development of the Ford F-250 diesel is a great example of this. I see more 7.3s on the road than 6.0s and 6.4s.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 7:45 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11179 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 7:44 am to
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Funny I just talked randomly with the parts guy at BMW and he suggested now my X5 is 50,000+ and past warranty to get the extended added now. Said for an example the water pump w/o labor is damn near $800.
That’s crazy considering how cheap and Eazy Toyota’s

I’ve never argued that German cars weren’t great in the same way that dating a high maintenance woman can be a lot of fun for awhile.

My only argument is that for the same reason I would never marry a high maintenance woman I would never purchase a German car that wasn’t a Porsche.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10046 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:03 am to
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My only argument is that for the same reason I would never marry a high maintenance woman I would never purchase a German car that wasn’t a Porsche.

I have a ten year old Benz that has not needed any major repairs, knock on wood.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23380 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:13 am to
Technology has returned this to the age of planned obsolescence. These cars will become useless in the future because their technology will be out-of-date and unfixable. One of the guys who works on my car's told me that there are some Dodge trucks that have a computerized control unit that is not available on the market. If it breaks, the truck is scrap
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:18 am to
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So you can’t work on it yourself.




If enough people see this thread this could be the first 4-digit to zero thread ever.

I wouldn't be surprised if they put it in upside down.

(I know that probably not possible but it is the only generic stupid mistake I could come up with.)
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38970 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:23 am to
My German sedan has 165k+ on the clock and it drives like a dream. Exspendy AF, but there literally is nothing else that can replace it. I’ve had $5k+ bills from my Indy. Last time around I had damn near every fluid the vehicle has...oil, hydraulic fluid, and gas...leaking from various places. Nothing major yet though...so that’s good.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24262 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:31 am to
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So you can’t work on it yourself.


Sadly, those days are going away on a lot of vehicles.
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This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 8:41 am
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 11:52 am to
Yeah I’ve always had the reliability of the Toyota/Lexus line but have wanted an X5 for 10 years pulled the trigger on a great deal during Covid so I guess I’ll find out if I lucked out or not on maintenance.
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 1:58 pm to
Get that warranty or get a new vehicle. BMW’s suck... and anytime they touch it, it’s going to cost you at least $1500
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7003 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 2:06 pm to
I despise modern cars because of the needless complexity. I drive a 19 year-old Camry. If I want GPS or internet music I just use my phone.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
41500 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 4:11 pm to
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My only argument is that for the same reason I would never marry a high maintenance woman I would never purchase a German car that wasn’t a Porsche.


Just cut out all the nonsense and marry the Porsche
Posted by AgentUtah
Member since Jul 2011
1798 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 4:33 pm to
Anonymous pawn you say? You may want to change that screen name.
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