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Technology is getting out of control

Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:48 pm
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9387 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:48 pm
So GM has sent out a technical bulletin dealing with the water pumps on new trucks.

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According to the TSB, the printed circuit board inside of the water pump on affected vehicles “may have been manufactured incorrectly, potentially causing a water pump failure.”


The frick you need a circuit board inside of a water pump?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:52 pm to
So you can’t work on it yourself.
Posted by GumplandTiger
Hoover, AL
Member since Jan 2015
1204 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

The frick you need a circuit board inside of a water pump?


Control of your life, top to bottom.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62725 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

The frick you need a circuit board inside of a water pump?

To save water, or some other environmental reason, I'd guess
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98129 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:59 pm to
When the time comes, they'll send a signal to disable the water pump. It'll make the roundups easier.
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2357 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:06 pm to
Blame BMW. Those German f*ckers were the first to put electric water pumps in vehicles.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15081 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

The frick you need a circuit board inside of a water pump?


I would guess it's no longer belt driven to increase gas mileage .00001 MPGs and it is now an electric pump that is turned on and off to increase gas mileage an additional .00001 MPGs
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9387 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:25 pm to
Yea, let’s put three different water pumps on your vehicle. One to pump water to the heating system, one to pump water to cool the block, and one to pump water to cool the oil. That way if one pump fails you will still have water supply to the other systems. Genius. Except that if one fails the whole system is down anyway and now you have 3 times the number of pumps to fail. That is some dumb arse over engineered bullshite.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53566 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:27 pm to
What's the replacement/repair cost on one of those Microsoft water pumps?
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 11:28 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
41176 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

That is some dumb arse over engineered bullshite


Well the engineers have to get paid to do something
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98129 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:56 pm to
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What's the replacement/repair cost on one of those Microsoft water pumps?


It's no longer a physical pump. It resides on the Cloud.
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:07 am to
Funny I just talked randomly with the parts guy at BMW and he suggested now my X5 is 50,000+ and past warranty to get the extended added now. Said for an example the water pump w/o labor is damn near $800.
That’s crazy considering how cheap and Eazy Toyota’s and Lexus’ are in comparison to work on.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15081 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:23 am to
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Said for an example the water pump w/o labor is damn near $800. That’s crazy considering how cheap and Eazy Toyota’s and Lexus’ are in comparison to work on.



The water pump on my 4.7 V8 Toyota/Lexus engine is a bitch. May as well do the timing belt or vise versa when your in there. Parts & fluid would be about $300 and labor would be about $600-800. On the same engine you have to take the intake manifold off to replace the starter or the smog pump that is known to fail.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 12:53 am
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9387 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:26 am to
We had two tractors in the shop today that both had one exhaust manifold bolt broken. So they were leaking at the broken bolts. Had to pull both manifolds off and of course half the bolts broke off in the head pulling the manifold off. So we had to tig weld the broken bolts to get them out of the head. Just the new bolts and gaskets cost $350 to replace. Each cylinder had an individual gasket but you have to change them all when you pull the manifold plus the turbo gasket. No telling what it would have cost if the dealer had to do the work.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 7:56 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:30 am to
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Said for an example the water pump w/o labor is damn near $800.
damn I thought the $500 water pump on my Land Rover was expensive.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:33 am to
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damn I thought the $500 water pump on my Land Rover was expensive.


Bruh your crackhead arse got a land rover hot wheels car stuck in a water pump. Don't fricking lie.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:36 am to



Posted by lazy
Member since Jun 2020
1594 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:37 am to
Doesn't the gubment own GM now? There's your answer.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10515 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:40 am to
Everything about that guy is a paradox. This place says he is a crackhead felon and slums it up with women from here. Then he claims he Iives in San Francisco, he is married and claims to have to big time white collar job. Also now drives a Land Rover.

I have no idea what to believe at this point.

This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 12:41 am
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 12:42 am to
Now that you say it I’ll have to retract my statement of being easy to replace because I believe that I did just that with my 4.7 4Runner 10 years ago. But a far cry from 1500-$1600 it costs to do it on my X5 is something goes wrong. Won’t be keeping it after 90,000 -100,000 I know that much.
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