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re: Teaching your kids a foreign language
Posted on 10/13/24 at 11:18 am to Jackie Chan
Posted on 10/13/24 at 11:18 am to Jackie Chan
I grew up bilingual. My mom is Danish, so we talked Danish when it was the two of us and English when my Dad and half-siblings were around. That was a really good start for me learning other languages.
Japanese and Korean were the hardest because sentence structure is different. English is typically subject, verb, object. Japanese is typically subject, object, verb.
The picture is hanging on the wall. Vs
The picture on the wall is hanging. It is hard to change your thinking for longer sentences.
Japanese uses 4 character sets. Many of you are forgetting romaji. They write top to bottom or right to left with very little punctuation or spacing between characters. They have standard Japanese, male and female Japanese, and East and West Japanese (Kanto and Kansai). “Your Japanese is pretty good, but why do you talk like a girl?”
Personally, if I had to do it over again, I would focus on Mandarin and Spanish. Europeans, Japanese, and Koreans are pretty damn good at English nowadays.
Japanese and Korean were the hardest because sentence structure is different. English is typically subject, verb, object. Japanese is typically subject, object, verb.
The picture is hanging on the wall. Vs
The picture on the wall is hanging. It is hard to change your thinking for longer sentences.
Japanese uses 4 character sets. Many of you are forgetting romaji. They write top to bottom or right to left with very little punctuation or spacing between characters. They have standard Japanese, male and female Japanese, and East and West Japanese (Kanto and Kansai). “Your Japanese is pretty good, but why do you talk like a girl?”
Personally, if I had to do it over again, I would focus on Mandarin and Spanish. Europeans, Japanese, and Koreans are pretty damn good at English nowadays.
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Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:41 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:How do you teach your kids to learn other languages if you don’t speak them yourself? Do you point them in the direction of YouTube videos, apps, books, etc? Do they take actual lessons from a person? My kids are still tiny but would love to foster this in them and maybe even learn with them. I speak Spanish but not often enough for it to rub off on my children. I’m not ever sure when to use it vs not etc.
My oldest daughter is fluent in Italian and Japanese. My youngest is fluent in German and Korean. Best thing we ever did was encourage them to explore other languages.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:52 pm to Espritdescorps
As someone who is fluent in another language that’s not Spanish, I’m not sure I see the practical value in making your kid learn it. Sure, it was useful when I was in Europe in the actual country. But outside of that and meeting random people from time to time from that country and being able to speak to them, I’m not quite sure the juice would be worth the squeeze if it were not necessary for daily communication.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 2:08 pm to Espritdescorps
Take Latin if interested in law or medicine
Posted on 10/13/24 at 2:27 pm to Allyn McKeen
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Japanese uses 4 character sets. Many of you are forgetting romaji.
It's basically reading English so there's not much to learn here.
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They write top to bottom or right to left
Top to bottom in newspapers and books, everything else is mostly left to right
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With very little punctuation or spacing between characters.
This is why Kanji was adopted. It breaks up the words into noticeable segments
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They have standard Japanese, male and female
This is mostly inflection, tone and some vocabulary. Basic grammar doesn't change based on sex.
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Japanese, and East and West Japanese (Kanto and Kansai).
True, but it's just colloquial dialect. Learning standard Japanese will allow you to communicate with almost anyone that speaks Japanese
Posted on 10/13/24 at 2:39 pm to Espritdescorps
The Roman alphabet version of Japanese has excellent phonetics.
Traditional Japanese is based on Chinese. Eating in Chinatown with Japanese friends ordering all of the weird stuff that doesn't show up on the English menu is an experience.
Traditional Japanese is based on Chinese. Eating in Chinatown with Japanese friends ordering all of the weird stuff that doesn't show up on the English menu is an experience.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:42 am to Jackie Chan
I was trying to point out some of the difficulties of learning Japanese. Being able to read “OL” wouldn’t be of much use if you didn’t know what it means or when and how to use it. It is a complicated language. Count to 5. Count 5 pencils. Count 5 sheets of paper. There was way more to learn with Japanese than any other language I mastered. Korean is similar, but thank goodness for Hangul vs dealing with Japanese character sets. Anyone can master Hangul in less than an hour.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:42 am to Espritdescorps
I inadvertently taught both my kids a language which ought to be foreign to anyone who is not an adult and doesn't drive a truck or work on the docks as a longshoreman. They picked it up very easily and are now virtuosos.....they can both hold their own with any construction worker. I am very proud of them....nothing worse than an adult who does not know how to use profanity properly...
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:11 am to Allyn McKeen
I agree, I've been studying Japanese for years and still have a ways to go, just wanted to offer some counterpoints to your post.
I've just started Korean recently, Hangul is pretty simple but pronunciation is killing me.
I've just started Korean recently, Hangul is pretty simple but pronunciation is killing me.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:17 am to Espritdescorps
And to think all those European kids learn English and at least another language. I'm sure the educators would tell you if they got more money and more resources they could teach another language.
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