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re: Switching to a 1099 job. Good or bad idea?

Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:15 pm to
I am 1099, then I also am on my payroll for tax purposes as well.

My CPA handles all of that for me as far as bookkeeping and tax filings. However, you are not required to pay quarterly It makes it easier and reduces your potential burden once taxes are filed, but I've never paid quarterly in 4 years. there's a very small fee for not doing so, I think in 2021 it was 125.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:17 pm to
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you are not required to pay quarterly It makes it easier and reduces your potential burden once taxes are filed, but I've never paid quarterly in 4 years.


I guess CPAs are like lawyers, everyone has their own interpretation and it's all good, until you get audited or go to court
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65688 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Water Treatment does not equal wastewater. I do nothing with wastewater.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:31 pm to


I'm not letting the IRS borrow my money interest free. They will get it when I file my yearly income taxes.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2963 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:33 pm to
See if you can get phone numbers to a few of the other salesmen and call them.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:47 pm to
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I'm not letting the IRS borrow my money interest free. They will get it when I file my yearly income taxes.


You don't get to decide whether you owe quarterly payments or not.

Im guessing your actually an employee paid on commission from your posts, which is why you don't owe estimated payments
Posted by PerplenGold
TX
Member since Nov 2021
1183 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 2:56 pm to
I chased a storm once for roofing sales, Minnesota sometime around 2008. It sucked arse. MN was kinda cool though.

Can you spend an afternoon riding along with one of the current sales guys...go on appts with him?

I have sales people working for me. They're not 1099 though. This is advertising sales and they bust their asses. Sales is not an easy job or an easy skill. For every rep that succeeds and stays employed probably 10 or more get fired shortly after getting hired. Maybe more like 20.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 3:08 pm to
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You don't get to decide whether you owe quarterly payments or not. Im guessing your actually an employee paid on commission from your posts, which is why you don't owe estimated payments


And you’d be wrong boss, feel free to look up my S-corp.

Quarterly’s are estimated taxes, and for the last three tax years I’ve done one payment at filing.

There is a penalty for not paying quarterly, but it’s insignificant.
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 3:09 pm to
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There is a penalty for not paying quarterly, but it’s insignificant.


Well that depends on how much you owe.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 3:44 pm to
from my IRS Account Transcript for 2021:

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Penalty for not Pre-paying tax: $350


That's with a payment of $20,082 to the IRS, which is in addition to the W-2 taxes I paid through payroll.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 3:45 pm to
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That's with a payment of $20,082 to the IRS, which is in addition to the W-2 taxes I paid through payroll.



As I expected, you are having w-2 wages withheld which is offsetting a lot of your penalty
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 4:13 pm to
Almost every business owner I know is on their own payroll. If you don't have any employees and are 1099 that's a different story.

And that's not what you expected. You straight up said I'm a w-2 employee that makes commission.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 4:14 pm to
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And that's not what you expected. You straight up said I'm a w-2 employee that makes commission.


This is a weird try to gotcha game.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19118 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 4:14 pm to
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They are looking to expand. They are currently at 8 salesman and want to add a few more.

This is bad news as well. They will throw as many salespeople out there as they can because it doesn't cost the company anything, but they will get the profits from all of the new people they hired.

Maybe they’ll let him recruit and hire the salesmen and then he gets 25% of their profit. Let’s call it a down line or something. And then they go and find 8 people as well…

Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Im guessing your actually an employee paid on commission from your posts, which is why you don't owe estimated payments


What you said=false

and I also like fricking with you because you're a try hard douche bag that plays the contrarian at all times. If you're ever in PCB stop by fitness junky and I'll give you some real workout tips.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 4:58 pm to
Set up a separate savings account and start from the get go taking out your estimated % owed and park it there. Do. Not. Touch. It.
Pay at least one estimated payment during the year and you should avoid a fee for waiting to pay it all come tax time.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28811 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 5:07 pm to
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100% commission


Every job should be 100% commission. the world would be a better place.
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