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re: Study finds vaccines dramatically increase vascular events

Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10356 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:10 pm to
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our side


Your side is that of morons that are incapable of thinking independently. Speak for yourself.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12462 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:16 pm to
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Your side is that of morons that are incapable of thinking independently.
You say this as "your side" post articles that are written by the Jimmy Swaggarts of doctors and say it supports your position.

ETA: Also, before I get lumped into a certain group, I despise the mandate and think vaccinating children is crazy. The vaccine should be a person choice.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15762 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:20 pm to
2020

Every health issue is because of COVID-19

2021

Every health issue is because of the COVID-19 vaccines

You clowns parents were definitely the ones in 1982 freaking out about how if someone with AIDS looked at you you’d catch it too. Only now you have the internet so all you nut bags think you’re experts. Lmao. Some of y’all need a break.

Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16854 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Study finds vaccines dramatically increase vascular events



I don't doubt it. The vaccine cultists can take that bullshite if they want. I ain't
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:36 pm to
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A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.



BUT WHERE IS THE LONG TERM DATA?!@#?!@$
this data is only up to 2.5 months.
you should bring the same need for long term data in these studies.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23045 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:40 pm to
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Obviously a vaccine is not a good thing if it doesn’t do good. If it does do good, then the test is: does it do more good than harm


Considering the virus does very little if any harm to a VERY LARGE group of people AND we also know that the vaccine doesn’t really stop the spread, is it really worth getting it if you fall into the extremely low risk group??
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39167 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:47 pm to
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We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.


My god. What an insane thing to say definitively. Is there a full paper somewhere? I didn't see a full-text link.

Do you have a notification anytime anything remotely critical of the vaccine program is posted? It's impressive how dedicated you are to being an absolute dumbass.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37731 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:56 pm to
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This is such a stupid counterpoint



Most Covidiots are stupid. They don’t have anything else to offer.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37731 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:59 pm to
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My god. What an insane thing to say definitively. Is there a full paper somewhere? I didn't see a full-text link.


You’ll find it right next to the plethora of information that’s so readily available from Pfizer and the FDA regarding the extensive clinical trials and adverse events tied to the vaccine.

Oh wait…
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39167 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:04 pm to
Hmm, that isn't the point you think it is, unless you think one bad thing justifies another bad thing, which is the logic of a toddler.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37731 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:07 pm to
Nice deflection. Care to opine on how the Covidians can hale the vaccines as “completely safe”?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77110 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:34 pm to
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So does eating our delicious cajun foods, smoked meats, fired foods, etc...



Difference being no one is mandating that you shovel that down your pie hole. Personal choice right?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39167 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Nice deflection. Care to opine on how the Covidians can hale the vaccines as “completely safe”?



Lol. It's good to know that you think toddler logic is an appropriate response for asking for a full-text link. Regardless, I can opine. Is there any adverse event the vaccines supposedly cause that isn't a sequalae of the virus itself?
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:55 pm to
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Considering the virus does very little if any harm to a VERY LARGE group of people AND we also know that the vaccine doesn’t really stop the spread, is it really worth getting it if you fall into the extremely low risk group??


We are only beginning to get a handle on how much harm is being done... Brain changes and functional consequences
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78069 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:04 pm to

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Study finds vaccines dramatically increase vascular events

That is incorrect by the way. It says that test results suggesting risk increased from 11% to 25% for 2.5 months. It does not mention anyone in their group dying.

Where is the full article?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78069 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:08 pm to
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the vaccine increases the risk of certain serious diseases in this age group such as mentioned in this thread,
It doesn't. The author is a huckster who sells diets and supplements. Read the actual abstract and it says nothing about increased events. NOTHING. It suggests a temporary increase in inflammation markers, but this guy claims all sorts of shite does that and you need his magical diet and supplemenrs.
Posted by SCREWDAT
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2015
1402 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:12 pm to
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This is such a stupid counterpoint


It's actually an excellent counterpoint
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39167 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:12 pm to
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We are only beginning to get a handle on how much harm is being done... Brain changes and functional consequences



So COVID has long-term sequalae that we haven't fully fleshed out yet, which means that a vaccine program that decreases the chance of severe infection is also bad? I'm not following here.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25906 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:14 pm to
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So does eating our delicious cajun foods, smoked meats, fired foods, etc...



People like you would legit commit suicide if the govt told you to
Posted by kingfish225
Member since Dec 2013
558 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:38 pm to
actually spot on you know what else increases vascular events - getting Covid dumb asses
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