re: Study finds EV charging costs equivalent of $17/gallon

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They’re making a claim without evidence to back it. The $17 is not substantiated.

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I took the LSAT last Friday. There was a question regarding differing opinions on the benefits of EV vehicles. My answer to the question was that Scientist #2 is making a claim without evidence to back it up. I hope I was right on that one.

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I will argue that charging your EV overnight is time spent charging.

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That would be a poor argument. It isn't taking up any time that I would be doing something else. I can't cook dinner, watch tv and sleep while my truck is at the gas station.

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I will argue that charging your EV overnight is time spent charging. In that case, you will spend way more time charging than I will refueling.

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In terms of true time of your actual life spent, it's really not.

So my point still stands, you physically spend more time getting gas than it takes me to charge, which is about 5 ish seconds of my actual time per day.

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I will argue that charging your EV overnight is time spent charging. In that case, you will spend way more time charging than I will refueling.

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You spend far more time refueling in 1 month than I will spend charging over the entire life of my vehicle.

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With that said, this article is crap and was proven a week or so ago.

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It brings up some good points, even if the $17 is misleading. The EV marketplace is so severely distorted by government subsidies that the real economics is completely hidden from the buyer and the public. That is also the case for many, or maybe all, other commodities. We would all be better off if the government didn’t pick winners and losers. I think that would be capitalism, but it hasn’t existed in my lifetime so I wouldn’t know firsthand.

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Tesla interior build quality is notoriously shite

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Tesla build quality is on par with domestic manufacturers like Ford, GM, and Chrysler.

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Lookup the cyber truck and its uneven body work

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I’ve seen the pictures and it is bad, but the Cyber truck is effectively a rolling prototype still. Not the vehicle I’d use to argue build quality.

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We would all be better off if the government didn’t pick winners and losers

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I actually don't think we would. We wouldn't have hydraulic fracturing at the scale we do, we wouldn't have nearly the telecom network we do and so much more.

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I just talked to girl who is driving from Lafayette to OK. She will be in a Rivian R1S. She said she will charge 3 times at an hour and a half a piece. Is that right?

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I know the Rivian struck a deal to use tesla Superchargers, but I'm not sure if they're actually able to use them now?


If not, I guess there could be truth to it, but it's truly a guess.

If Rivian can use the Tesla Superchargers, then I'd assume it's definitely not true.


But it's also basically an example of why buying a non-Tesla(or nowadays, an EV that can't use the supercharging network) makes zero sense if you need to use that EV for road trips.

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That would be a poor argument. It isn't taking up any time that I would be doing something else. I can't cook dinner, watch tv and sleep while my truck is at the gas station.

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I understand that. But I'm also not refueling instead of doing these things because it doesn't take that long.

My point is the time it takes to get you back on the road is much longer than me.

Sure, you are charging when not using your EV, but your EV is actively "refueling" all night whereas a fill up is a few minutes.

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My point is the time it takes to get you back on the road is much longer than me.

Sure, you are charging when not using your EV, but your EV is actively "refueling" all night whereas a fill up is a few minutes.

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Obviously everything you're saying is true, but I think the most important part is the actual time it takes out of your day directly. My car charging from 12am to 4am or whatever, sure in the literal sense takes more time than getting gas. But in the practical and actual sense of usage, it's zero time for me.

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You spend more of your life dicking around with refueling than EV owners. If you really love gas stations, cool.

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I spend 5 min a week to fill up my truck with gas.