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re: Study COVID-19 on death row inmates
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:06 pm to Fat and Happy
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:06 pm to Fat and Happy
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Human testing on death row immates would make people greatly consider the thought of serious and terrible crimes
So getting sent to death row in the first place, or being locked in a cage for the rest of their life isn't what makes people consider committing crimes, but getting some virus will?
It doesn't really matter what the consequence is if someone is that certain they won't get caught.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:08 pm to MaxDraft
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death row inmates
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financial incentive for volunteering
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:13 pm to Puffoluffagus
The Japs did it to Chinese people and the Nazi's did it to Jewish people.
Sounds a little unethical to me.
Maybe offer to commute their sentence if they survive.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:17 pm to Nawlens Gator
OP specifically said VOLUNTEER. Now you can argue that the potential for abuse makes it a bad idea, but under the OP’s scenario it’s absurd to compare this to the Nazis and Japs.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:23 pm to nugget
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The death penalty should be abolished. No government should have the ability to kill one of its own citizens
Big facts.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:30 pm to lsu2006
IMO there should not even be a death row. Why are these people found guilty for taking one's life get all the appeals and shite that last for years and years. The victims didn't get this chance. Bottom line, if you are convicted by a jury and they sentence you to death, it should be within two weeks that you are put to death.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:44 pm to dukke v
Really?? Well what about dirty cops? What about planting evidence? What about prosecutors withholding evidence from defendants to keep their conviction rate up? What about false witnesses? What about false confessions? What about lack of legal help?
Believe me, I don’t like for them to just set there, but there’s way to many scenarios that there’s no way you could do it in two weeks and have completely looked over the case from a different attorney’s view. We have way to many people in positions that are only looking out for themselves to do away with any kind of appeals.
Believe me, I don’t like for them to just set there, but there’s way to many scenarios that there’s no way you could do it in two weeks and have completely looked over the case from a different attorney’s view. We have way to many people in positions that are only looking out for themselves to do away with any kind of appeals.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:50 pm to Rebelatheart42
The plan is acceptable.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:51 pm to BatonScrewedTiger
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Unethical as hell, but I’m cool with it. They are there for a reason.
Yeah, to die.
By all means, let's hypothetically spend more tax dollars keeping them alive.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:53 pm to MaxDraft
OT: "Yeah China took drastic and draconian action to slow this down but don't suggest we do things like those authoritarians!"
Also OT: "Hey let's do medical experiments on prisoners!"
Also OT: "Hey let's do medical experiments on prisoners!"
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:41 pm to dukke v
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The victims didn't get this chance. Bottom line, if you are convicted by a jury and they sentence you to death, it should be within two weeks that you are put to death.
The problem here is relying too heavily on the purity of the criminal justice system at every level. Sometimes cops or prosecutors are dirty. Sometimes people are wrongly convicted. There's way too much risk of the government killing an innocent person to adopt this kind of standard.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:43 pm to MaxDraft
Might as well just offer up 100 shite posters while we're at it.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:04 pm to lsu2006
I don’t trust local government cops, juries, and prosecutors to always get the right guy. The likelihood of executing an innocent person is the big insurmountable problem with the death penalty.
OTOH if you’re at all familiar with capital defense lawyers and what they do, they usually aren’t fighting to keep innocent guys off death row. They’re on crusade to end the institution altogether. That overarching goal of abolishment, not the convicted’s innocence, is what drives the countless appeals and crazy motions on every case. The goal is to drive up the state’s costs and then say “see how expensive it is!”
OTOH if you’re at all familiar with capital defense lawyers and what they do, they usually aren’t fighting to keep innocent guys off death row. They’re on crusade to end the institution altogether. That overarching goal of abolishment, not the convicted’s innocence, is what drives the countless appeals and crazy motions on every case. The goal is to drive up the state’s costs and then say “see how expensive it is!”
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:12 pm to MaxDraft
Imagine corona in a place like Angola. 6k inmates. Most houses in dorms of 60+ or on cell blocks with poor ventilation.
TB, hepatitis, etc is common in prisons. Talk about an overwhelming strain on prison hospital staff
TB, hepatitis, etc is common in prisons. Talk about an overwhelming strain on prison hospital staff
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:18 pm to MaxDraft
Why don't you simmer down there Dr. Mengele.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:35 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Imagine corona in a place like Angola. 6k inmates. Most houses in dorms of 60+ or on cell blocks with poor ventilation.
TB, hepatitis, etc is common in prisons. Talk about an overwhelming strain on prison hospital staff
Right.
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