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re: Student Loan payback
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:33 am to mattchewbocca
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:33 am to mattchewbocca
Had you joined the military, you'd have no student loans. This is just of a few ways you could have dodged student loans.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:35 am to ruzil
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They are, but they bake the interest in so there is no advantage for paying them off early.
Please google a loan amortization spreadsheet/tool/calculator. Amortization essentially takes a term of months and determines a finite number of payments consisting of principal (your actual loan amount) and interest (the fee charged for loaning you the money). While the loan payment per month is the same, the payments incrementally payback more principal and less interest each month to where the last payment finishes off the principal (i.e. the interest every month reduces because the principal reduced the month before).
This basic premise was lost on those who didn't pay while there was no interest. Just paying their typical payment would have retired possibly a few extra thousand dollars; had they increased their payment, it could have been more. All that extra principal paid back would have meant a shorter loan term or possibly a reduced payment if it were refinanced.
Now the financially illiterate who are apparently smart enough to go to college and vote and tell the world how it's doing everything wrong but not smart enough to seek out financial knowledge on their own are playing the victim card. Bollocks.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:45 am to mattchewbocca
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I’ve paid it ll back what I borrowed but the interest rates
1) there has been no interest for the last 3 years on these loans if they were subject to the pause you describe
2) you did not pay back what you owe. The amount of money you paid may exceed the amount you originally borrowed, but that’s because money isn’t free. You agreed to pay some percentage down the line to have the money now. You pay the cost of the interest to the person loaning you the money so they have a reason to loan you the money. You don’t pay them, they don’t loan you money. So you have paid a lot of interest, but they’ll readily tell you the amount of unpaid principle you have left. If it is zero, congratulations, you should quit paying. If it is not, then you should be a person of your word and live up to the obligation you committed to.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:46 am to Free888
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There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding by many how loans (including student loans) work. People really need to educate themselves. I’m not even sure some parents are equipped to teach their kids.
Everyone
has
a
phone
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:48 am to Ostrich
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Were you paying at all when interest was paused for three years or...?
If the roles were reversed and they could pull money out at a lower interest rate but tack it on top of what they already owed, they wouldve taken money out and that is a fact.
Instead they paused it and 1% made payments (smart people) and everyone else got lazy, like usual.
This is about responsibility and self-control. Something no one has anymore.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:51 am to jizzle6609
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Instead they paused it and 1% made payments (smart people) and everyone else got lazy, like usual.
I know too many people that were working full-time with no children who viewed the pause as extra money in their pocket. They acted like the loan went away.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:52 am to mattchewbocca
Baws: Taxation is theft
Also Baws:The government should violently enforce student loan repayment
Also Baws:The government should violently enforce student loan repayment
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:54 am to IAmNERD
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You keep saying this, but that's not how it works.
Dude wants just wants some 0% interest loans he can payback whenever he feels like it
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:54 am to DakIsNoLB
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I know too many people that were working full-time with no children who viewed the pause as extra money in their pocket. They acted like the loan went away.
Exactly.
Unbeknownst to them (hopefully they arent finance people) the cost of living has gone up since the pause so they fricked themselves quite literally
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:00 am to dgnx6
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And they are going to college? Maybe we should rethink this.
You are an adult. Be one.
Right. 18 is apparently old enough to enlist in service and potentially die in war but not old enough to understand what a loan is and how it works
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:00 am to mattchewbocca
If you refi'd during Covid like I did, you would have a rate in the 2s. Mistake by you.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:01 am to HangmanPage1
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I’ve got about 100k for my Bachelor/Masters. Have not paid back and plan to never pay it back. I believe I just enrolled in the save program or something where I have $0 payments for the next 20 years. Screw it.
You're a bum
I bet you like to bitch when you see someone whip out a LA purchase card at the grocery store, though.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:03 am to dewster
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And the payments firing back up this month is going to throw even more cold water on the economy.
Good. It will slow down inflation for the rest of us
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:22 am to mattchewbocca
Sell the RV, fill in the backyard pool and get out of both the hunting clubs.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:27 am to stout
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You're a bum
I bet you like to bitch when you see someone whip out a LA purchase card at the grocery store, though.
I could never write what that person just wrote.
"Have not paid and do not intend to pay it back"
This is the current college graduate in America.
Incredible digression of Americans.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 11:04 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:27 am to deltaland
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Student loans should be capped based on the average salary of the major you choose outside of STEM degrees, unless you have a co-signer with an income level that shows a higher loan can be paid off
I would take it a step further, caps should be based on the majors ability to place you directly into the work force. It's irrational to me the cost of undergrad is so high due to these institutions knowing they are getting 4 years of unlimited money through student loans. It should be less stringent loan caps for masters programs, but still tied to the average salary of that field. An accountant getting a masters to take the CPA shouldn't be given the same as a person getting a masters in library science.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:30 am to Dixie2023
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Understand. I don’t disagree they need to be paid back. It’s just frustrating bc the gov literally hands out money. Not just for tuition. But to rent apartments, etc. It should be tuition only, with the kid / parents paying the fees, dorms, food, etc. There has to be a better way. I know. The kids need to read and they attend financial counseling. But it’s really bad counseling. And when one is 18 and starry-eyed about college and earning a degree and making a successful life, none of that matters. They see money and the chance to go. My frustration is the billions wasted on foreigners and other stupid things and their pet projects.
Yes, but the answer isn't let's do more stupidity because we are rife with stupidity. It needs to be reigned in across the board.
As for college, loaning for it should be underwritten like any other loan. If they granted student loans the way they do business loans and mortgages, we'd be in a lot better shape though with far fewer kids going to college.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:36 am to DakIsNoLB
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we'd be in a lot better shape though with far fewer kids going to college.
The problem is only rich white kids would go. I came from lower middle class and it sucks how much I paid compared to my rich colleagues but I also am paying in time and lowered my rate so Ill be fine as I earn a decent salary as an attorney.
That being said, the issue is cost, the schools are scams at this point and the cost is unattainable for middle class and lower.
I told LSU they ripped me off and would never see a dollar from me post-grad, and to date I have never given the law center a cent. They took enough from me and it has only gotten worse for the more recent grads.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:40 am to mattchewbocca
Let’s see, you get out of high school, you can’t get a loan for a $350,000 house. But you can get a $350,000 student loan. See how this works.
Want to tell us your major?
Want to tell us your major?
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:01 am to TigerBandTuba
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Baws: Taxation is theft
Also Baws:The government should violently enforce student loan repayment
Can't talk no sense in to them.
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