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re: Stoneman Douglas school resource officer stayed outside as shooting unfolded
Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:32 pm to joeyb147
Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:32 pm to joeyb147
quote:What did the police dept do about that?
a deputy investigated a report that Cruz ‘planned to shoot up the school’ – intelligence that was forwarded to the school’s resource officer, with no apparent result.”
And how do we know the school did nothing about it?
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:49 pm to MrLarson
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Peterson had multiple times that he could have prevented Cruz from shooting up that school. Sadly, he was a failure just like the FBI.
People make outrageous threats every day they get investigated, and that is the extent of it, it is not apparent Cruz broke any law that would justify holding him for any significant period of time, his firearm was legally owned, exactly how were they gong to prevent this?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:01 pm to EA6B
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exactly how were they gong to prevent this?
The guy had more red flags than mine sweep on expert level.
Tips from all different people, hell his family called the police and wanted his guns confiscated because they thought he was going to shoot up that school.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:08 pm to MrLarson
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The guy had more red flags than mine sweep on expert level.
Tips from all different people, hell his family called the police and wanted his guns confiscated because they thought he was going to shoot up that school.
If he only did half of what has been reported, that should've justified the school/sheriffs office/FBI to have taken action. This is inexcusable.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:55 pm to ElroyJetSon
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This is a ridiculous statement. If it wasn’t for a good guy with a gun, the Texas church shooting a few months ago would’ve been much worse
Well there's one instance. What about all the good guys with guns in Las Vegas? At the pulse nightclub?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:01 pm to EA6B
People make outrageous threats every day they get investigated, and that is the extent of it, it is not apparent Cruz broke any law that would justify holding him for any significant period of time, his firearm was legally owned, exactly how were they gong to prevent this?
Exactly. People get carried away with "there were warning signs!" or "The police/FBI were notified!" And? What do you want the police to do BEFOREHAND? We can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. And LE doesn't have the resources or manpower to babysit every potential ticking time bomb. If you think the War on Drugs has led to abuse of authority and degradation of personal rights, just give the FBI and LE Minority Report-style powers.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:04 pm to GetCocky11
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the shooter was engaged by the civilian as he was leaving the church. So i guess what I'm trying to say is that the church shooting couldn't have been much worse.
He sure as hell didn't kill anyone after he left the church.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:06 pm to Mung
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At the pulse nightclub?
Can't carry a gun at a nightclub
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:17 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Exactly. People get carried away with "there were warning signs!" or "The police/FBI were notified!" And? What do you want the police to do BEFOREHAND? We can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. And LE doesn't have the resources or manpower to babysit every potential ticking time bomb. If you think the War on Drugs has led to abuse of authority and degradation of personal rights, just give the FBI and LE Minority Report-style powers.
Logic and common sense have no place in this thread.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:25 pm to Mung
quote:... you know those are gun free zones, right?
What about all the good guys with guns in Las Vegas? At the pulse nightclub?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:46 pm to joeyb147
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@cnnpolitics
Many police officers were surprised to find that not only the armed school resource officer but 3 other Broward County sheriff’s deputies were outside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during the shooting crisis and hadn’t entered, sources tell CNN cnn.it/2GEBvCp pic.twitter.com/hSckUZWzS8
Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:56 pm to Pettifogger
quote:they weren't even the first responders inside the school
Broward County sheriff’s deputies were outside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during the shooting crisis and hadn’t entered
Coral Springs police were the first officers inside the building
quote:LINK
Jake Tapper
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@jaketapper
Coral Springs Police Chief Anthony Pustizzi sent out this email to his staff on Feb 16 because, per source, some officers under his command were upset that Broward Sheriff’s Office wasn’t acknowledging that Coral Springs Police were first to charge into MSD High School:
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:04 pm to joeyb147
Yeah looks like it is boiling over. frick that Sheriff.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:12 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Many police officers were surprised to find that not only the armed school resource officer but 3 other Broward County sheriff’s deputies were outside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during the shooting crisis and hadn’t entered, sources tell CNN cnn.it/2GEBvCp pic.twitter.com/hSckUZWzS8
Imagine that, there is more to the story than was first reported, to bad the resource officer has already been tried, convicted, and sentenced by the OT.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:17 pm to Pettifogger
Good. Scott Israel should be called out and then removed from his position in the most dishonorable way possible. That guy spent more time on TV yapping his jaw than doing real police work to protect that school and community.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:19 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Exactly. People get carried away with "there were warning signs!" or "The police/FBI were notified!" And? What do you want the police to do BEFOREHAND? We can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. And LE doesn't have the resources or manpower to babysit every potential ticking time bomb. If you think the War on Drugs has led to abuse of authority and degradation of personal rights, just give the FBI and LE Minority Report-style powers.
How many people like this guy do you think reside in Broward county???
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:20 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
@cnnpolitics
Many police officers were surprised to find that not only the armed school resource officer but 3 other Broward County sheriff’s deputies were outside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during the shooting crisis and hadn’t entered, sources tell CNN cnn.it/2GEBvCp pic.twitter.com/hSckUZWzS8
The security footage and timestamps will be interesting to see if this is verified.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:23 pm to idlewatcher
Apparently the Coral Springs police chief sent an email to his guys that basically acknowledges it is bullshite Broward Sheriff is taking credit despite having done jack shite, saying that "the truth will come out in time"
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:40 pm to CaptSpaulding
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Looks pretty investigated to me:
quote:
Guy deserves everything that comes his way
Since the witnesses, the video, and the resource officers statement somehow left out the part about the other officers already on the scene maybe it was not quite investigated enough!
"When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland,
Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school."
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:43 pm to EA6B
I was told earlier this was an open and shut case about the resource officer.
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