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re: Stay at home dads
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:35 am to Rick9Plus
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:35 am to Rick9Plus
I would agree with that. She was so elated to have been able to bring me back home to the family, as our whole relationship history to that point was all about my working situation.
Sounds like the OP has his head on straight and a success in his own way, but is going through a dilemma of letting his values go and becoming submissive, which is not always the result. When it comes down to it, do what you think is best for your family.
Sounds like the OP has his head on straight and a success in his own way, but is going through a dilemma of letting his values go and becoming submissive, which is not always the result. When it comes down to it, do what you think is best for your family.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:38 am to lepdagod
Shuttling kids around
Running errands
Keeping the house in good order (which is way more than just cleaning)
Keeping up with the school schedules
Keeping up with extracurriculars
Saving on daycare/aftercare
Cooking
Being more present and active in your children's lives (10x more important that just about any career)
Ability to be more active in your kid's school and your community, which is likely to provide a huge benefit to your family.
etc
etc
And let's be honest. 50% (at least) of office jobs these days are fricking bullshite busy work that does little to nothing to help your employer's bottom line and pays like 65k a year (if that). Nothing honorable about sticking with one of those jobs over providing the best home life possible for your family.
Running errands
Keeping the house in good order (which is way more than just cleaning)
Keeping up with the school schedules
Keeping up with extracurriculars
Saving on daycare/aftercare
Cooking
Being more present and active in your children's lives (10x more important that just about any career)
Ability to be more active in your kid's school and your community, which is likely to provide a huge benefit to your family.
etc
etc
And let's be honest. 50% (at least) of office jobs these days are fricking bullshite busy work that does little to nothing to help your employer's bottom line and pays like 65k a year (if that). Nothing honorable about sticking with one of those jobs over providing the best home life possible for your family.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 9:42 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:40 am to lepdagod
quote:oh well, I have a masters degree and I stay at home with the kids - they know i have one, why would they think I’m ‘wasting’ it when I’m with them? They’re kids, they think the whole world revolves around them. They couldn’t care less about some degree.
. or that her Mama is wasting a accountant degree...
My kids know I think they’re important, and I’m not leaving them with some ex-con at a day care or at school for 12 hours a day with before and after care.
Money isn’t everything. My husband works hard, my kids see that. That’s very important, too.
I know women who need to do that, and that’s fine - families need to do what they need to do. But in general, mom should be home with the kids.
50 years ago the world was a lot better place. Maybe because mom was home and kids knew they had parents that cared.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:41 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Shuttling kids around Running errands Keeping the house in good order (which is way more than just cleaning) Keeping up with the school schedules Keeping up with extracurriculars Saving on daycare/aftercare Cooking etc etc
Everything you listed(except daycare/aftercare) is achieved by working parents daily
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:42 am to GreenRockTiger
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Maybe because mom was home and kids knew they had parents that cared.
I get it, just as a guy I couldnt do it.
I dont even think I can stay home when I retire.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:45 am to GreenRockTiger
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50 years ago the world was a lot better place. Maybe because mom was home and kids knew they had parents that cared.
For who exactly as the world a better place... you think kids with both parents that work don't think their parents care???
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:46 am to lepdagod
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Everything you listed(except daycare/aftercare) is achieved by working parents daily
And?
Instead of two people half assing all those things (because they are working 80-100 hours a week combined) one person can focus on those, while the other person is able to focus on work, so that when the family is together on nights and weekends, it's quality time instead of a bunch of errands and chores that provide little if any relaxation before having to go back to work/school on monday.
It's nice to have a weekend filled with doing fun shite with my kids instead of running to target, doing laundry, going to the grocery, cooking meals for the week, etc scrambling to get all that shite done before Monday morning.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 9:50 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I get it, too. I know the title of the thread is stay at home dads, and dads should be working. There’s no reason why a man shouldn’t.
just as a guy I couldnt do it.
And I think it’s good for kids to see their dads, see their dads work, and see that dad has hobbies and skills. Hopefully that can all be passed along.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:49 am to lepdagod
quote:
For who exactly as the world a better place...
Objectively so, for most kids.
More bonding > less bonding.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:49 am to lepdagod
quote:society as a whole
For who exactly as the world a better place..
quote:on the weekends I moonlight as a youth minister - and most kids wish they spent more time with their parents
you think kids with both parents that work don't think their parents care???
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:53 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Instead of two people half assing all those things (because they are working 80-100 hours a week combined) one person can focus on those, while the other person is able to focus on work, so that when the family is together on nights and weekends, it's quality time instead of a bunch of errands and chores that provide little if any relaxation before having to go back to work/school on monday.
I don't think its as stressful as you making it to out be... not for me and most of the people I know... everyone would enjoy a little extra time off... I'm not judging but I can't be made to believe if you not super well off that one parent shouldn't be earning... just my opinion
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:56 am to Privateer 2007
My wife and I make 350k. I make about 60% of that. These past two years I’ve had the opportunity to take 6 weeks for each of my two kids births. It’s taught me a few things.
My take aways:
I could be a stay at home dad in my sleep. We’d have a clean house, fresh cooked meal, kids would have homework and extra curricular activities take care of every day. I’d still have time to get a round of golf in daily.
What I would struggle with is the saving aspect. I’d miss the retirement savings from my employer. I’d be concerned that it would force her to work longer than I’d like.
As far as our day to day, we could manage that without my income.
We would be missing out on some travel though. It’s something I value and want my children to experience as well.
My take aways:
I could be a stay at home dad in my sleep. We’d have a clean house, fresh cooked meal, kids would have homework and extra curricular activities take care of every day. I’d still have time to get a round of golf in daily.
What I would struggle with is the saving aspect. I’d miss the retirement savings from my employer. I’d be concerned that it would force her to work longer than I’d like.
As far as our day to day, we could manage that without my income.
We would be missing out on some travel though. It’s something I value and want my children to experience as well.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:57 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Believe it or not, a person can be very productive and bring huge value to a household without earning income. The stay at home parent can aid the working parent in climbing their career ladder and making more money and being more "productive" than they ever could if didn't have a spouse they could rely on to keep the house and kids together. Lot easier for a person to focus on their career and move up the ranks if they know their home and kids are taken care of.
Spot on. I treat her the same way I would want to be treated if I owned a successful business. For her I do all the daily chores with the kids, handle and invest the money, tax planning, Human Resources obligations, meal planning, telling her only the most important drama, maintaining the home, cars, etc. acquiring needed goods and services. Giving the kids a productive and enjoyable childhood.
The end result is her efficient focus on the business, which has quadrupled over four years.
Unfortunately there are a lot of men out there who are also married to a business, practice, or profession who don’t have time to do much or any of normal household duties, yet they return home daily to a nagging irrational wife with a honey-do list, a list of demands, drama and needs, all while she goes out on a girls night out and hangs out at the gym bullshitting and gossiping for half the day.
With my new schedule I work out at the same time the gym moms are there. They literally bullshite and loiter all day, neglecting their roles. I don’t have the time for any of that.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:00 am to GreenRockTiger
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society as a whole
LOL... no ma'am... but different subject
quote:
on the weekends I moonlight as a youth minister - and most kids wish they spent more time with their parents
What age are these kids???... and how are you moonlighting??? What's the other job??? it seems you work as a unpaid youth minister on the weekends... and that's my point if you have time for that you have time to at least partially earn some money on the weekends doing a paid job
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:01 am to Mariner
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The end result is her efficient focus on the business, which has quadrupled over four years.
Dumbass Lepdagod doesn't understand this.
quote:
Unfortunately there are a lot of men out there who are also married to a business, practice, or profession who don’t have time to do much or any of normal household duties, yet they return home daily to a nagging irrational wife with a honey-do list, a list of demands, drama and needs, all while she goes out on a girls night out and hangs out at the gym bullshitting and gossiping for half the day.
Of course this can't fly. If someone is not working, non-negotiable that they are taking care of the house so the list of needs and honey-dos for the working spouse should be as close to zero as possible. The whole point is that the stay at home parent, like you, is treating their role as a job. It doesn't work if that person just fricks around all day and doesn't fulfill their role.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:05 am to Privateer 2007
quote:
you make 150k.
Sounds like this man is not a stay at home dad.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:05 am to Privateer 2007
My wife makes 10x what I make but there ain’t no way I would have stayed home with the kids 
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:08 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Dumbass Lepdagod doesn't understand this.
We were mostly discussing if your old lady had a 9 to 5... not a business she owned like the other poster is referring to... I stated in one of my first post on the subject if she a multimillionaire obviously you don't have to work... I would still but that's me... in the scenario we were speaking of your kids would miss out on vacations and a bunch of other stuff because the money isn't there... and God forbid the one earning parent lost their job or had a medical issue... than what???
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:14 am to Rize
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My wife and I both make more than that and we have no kids. Couldn’t imagine living on one of our incomes now but we have been doing this for a while.
My wife makes more than me but I’d be a fricking idiot to quit a 200k plus year job.
Nobody is impressed by a fricking Cintas salesman.
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:18 am to lepdagod
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We were mostly discussing if your old lady had a 9 to 5... not a business she owned like the other poster is referring to... I stated in one of my first post on the subject if she a multimillionaire obviously you don't have to work...
You are aware that you don't start out as a multimillionaire business owner right?
It almost always takes years and years of hard work and long hours. Something that someone with a stay at home parent can help with immensely because the working parent is freed up to focus on their career.
And it's not just business owners. There a tons of high paying jobs out there that demand 50+ hours a week. Believe it or not, some women even do those jobs. A lot of those jobs can be part of a very lucrative career worth millions if you are able to give it your all and not have to also worry about starting dinner at 7:00 pm after working for 11 hours.
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