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re: State pauses work on Louisiana's biggest-ever coastal project. 'You just can't afford it.'
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:57 pm to Boston911
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:57 pm to Boston911
JBE really screwed the state with this one. But like everything else, y’all blame Landry.
Waste of money and waste of time. I wonder which one of JBEs cronies got paid on this deal.
Landry’s done more the state in 1 year than JBE did in 8. By the time he’s done, I fully expect for the state government to be smaller, income taxes to be nearly nonexistent and over 100,000 more people and jobs added to the state.
Waste of money and waste of time. I wonder which one of JBEs cronies got paid on this deal.
Landry’s done more the state in 1 year than JBE did in 8. By the time he’s done, I fully expect for the state government to be smaller, income taxes to be nearly nonexistent and over 100,000 more people and jobs added to the state.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:00 pm to Lickitty Split
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JBE really screwed the state with this one. But like everything else, y’all blame Landry. Waste of money and waste of time. I wonder which one of JBEs cronies got paid on this deal.
Not the State’s money, or JBE’s idea.
By I guess a few oyster leases (that shouldn’t be there anyway but for the levees) having to move further out is too high a price to pay. And I say that tongue in cheek, because the project included almost $400 million dollars to assist the oyster and shrimp guys in the basin that would be impacted.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:22 pm to Lickitty Split
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Landry’s done more the state in 1 year than JBE did in 8
Let’s see. His 10 commandments charade failed miserably, he dragged a knock off Mike the tiger from some Florida trailer park into tiger stadium en route to lsu getting their arse kicked, got schooled/embarrassed about the national anthem, had all 4 amendments lose the other day, and now got bent over by the Croatian mafia oyster lobby.
Off to a great start!
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:23 pm to Indefatigable
If it’s not the state’s money then why the hell is the state paying for it or will be made to pay for it if it’s canceled? You can’t have it both ways. And yes the project actually started under JBE. I don’t care when they first started talking about it. It got approved and funded under JBE.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:24 pm to ragincajun03
Sounds like we need another oil spill
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:01 pm to Tarps99
quote:it absolutely matters.... You claim something it's t right when the experts study it for a decade you need to have credentials to be credible.
really doesn’t matter what I do. I have been living in coastal Louisiana for over 40 years and have seen the changes.
quote:I don't disagree, but we can't change that...
The rules and regulations and myriad of federal regulations have got us into this mess.
quote:unaffordable? This project is funded....you are cut from the same cloth as the politicians. Lie until your dead.
The regulations and requirements to do endless studies have killed more projects due to cost and requirements that make them unaffordable. That is what appears to be happening here.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:02 pm to ragincajun03
They could create more land by just converting the budget into pennies and dumping them into the bay.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:23 pm to Lickitty Split
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it’s not the state’s money then why the hell is the state paying for it or will be made to pay for it if it’s canceled? You can’t have it both ways
Yes, you can. The feds/trust paid for what has already been done. Mainly engineering, design, environmental and initial site work. If the project is canceled because Jeff and his minions made a political calculation with Billy Nungesser (what happened), the state owes that money back to the feds and the related trusts.
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And yes the project actually started under JBE
It entered the master plan under JBE, but he had nothing to do with it and the project was conceived before he took office. The master plan is approved by the legislature. Unanimously, I might add—including the representatives for the parishes involved. The diversions have been in CPRA’s wish list of projects for a long time.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:30 pm to hawkster
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They could create more land by just converting the budget into pennies and dumping them into the bay.
It’s net land creation. Stopping additional loss is far more important than building new land. You have to stop it and re-introduce natural processes first. As I’ve said already, this isn’t a standalone project. It was part of a comprehensive, multi-generational plan.
Throwing rip rap and sand onto the barrier islands is a laughable effort that just kicks the can down the road a decade.
ETA: arguing that anything other than knocking holes in the levee to bring back freshwater and sediment to these areas (diversions) will work is astounding to me. It’s the only reason the land existed to begin with, and it’s the only way it can be stabilized.
Dredging or tossing rocks on the beach is a completely and hilariously inadequate suggestion that almost certainly involves making state officials and their families rich.
This project and its related projects were free for you, the LA taxpayer. Now, you’ll be paying for constant dredging in a losing battle. I wonder who wins that contract.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:48 pm to Boston911
quote:maybe get Omar the Tiger back, I can’t believe I voted for this clown. He’s making Jindal look like Ronald Reagan
IDK what the answer is though
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:17 pm to Tarps99
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Also, Gordy loves rocks. Without rocks there is nothing to secure the newly created land.
Rocks are a terrible idea.
Screw it, quit bailing the shrimpers and oyster guys out, let the storms take their shite to sea.
At some point, the oyster fishermen will start complaining about the damage oyster drills are causing to their beds.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:34 pm to Indefatigable
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anything other than knocking holes in the levee to bring back freshwater and sediment to these areas (diversions) will work is astounding to me. It’s the only reason the land existed to begin with,
This is the only thing that matters.
We live in an alluvial soil delta, the sediment is constantly subsiding and eroding. Without new material deposited annually on top of existing marsh during the spring flood, it will eventually all disappear.
A diversion is one way to essentially undo the levee that has starved the coastal marshes of new soil.
I spend about 50 days a year in the vermilion bay to Atchafalaya bay system fishing. The amount of sediment from the Atchafalaya river is unreal it plugs up any canal or lake or flat that isn’t actively flowing. It’s filling in marsh island. Ponds and lakes I used to fish are too shallow now from river sediment. It has happened in years, not decades. The river has so much mud and sand and particulate it adds so much material to the landscape it’s hard to believe until you witness it.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:42 pm to SpqrTiger
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In this state... the tail wags the dog. We let short-term thinkers and local interests handicap any big-picture strategy for Louisiana.
You know its tough being away from family. I feel a little guilty that my parents don't get to see my kids (their grandkids) very often, but things like this are the reason why.
I want my kids and eventually their kids to grow up in a better place than I did.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:48 am to ragincajun03
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Some $2.92 billion in BP funding has been approved for the project, but Landry has said the cost has now risen to at least $3.1 billion.
The cost increase in no way has anything to do with Plaquemines Parish's legal delays, and Landry crawfishing on the project he once supported.
Our politicians can use this as an example of Louisiana's prudent government management the next time we ask the Feds to bail us out from yet another major hurricane.
With a promise to do even better next time.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 4:12 am to Indefatigable
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Dredging or tossing rocks on the beach is a completely and hilariously inadequate suggestion that almost certainly involves making state officials and their families rich.
Someone hasn’t been to Grand Isle.
In the parts of Grand Isle that had segmented breakwater rocks the damage from hurricane Ida was minimal to the island compared to the rest of the island. The rocks captured the sand instead of eroding the beach and the levee.
The same is true for another barrier island below Terrebonne that was rocked before Ida. Some of the barrier islands that were not rocked actually moved and lost the sand that was dredged on them. There is one that is now a glorified a sand bar north of a platform that was on the backside of the island before Ida.
Just putting sand on the barrier islands is like putting sugar in coffee as the Mayor of Grand Isle likes to say.
As far as why the Atchafalaya is growing and this project would mimic it. It would but on a much smaller scale the levels of water and sediment coming down the Atchafalaya would be minuscule compared to the Wax Lake and the Atchafalaya River. Any land created from it would take decades before any meaningful growth would take hold barring a hurricane to alter the landscape.
Now compare that with a new potential idea of terracing and building land bridges using sediment dredged from the river and pipelined to parts of the basin unreachable by this diversion. You will see the benefits of land growth almost immediately and with a smaller fresh water introduction less impact to the fisheries.
What is to say we get this 3 billion dollar project built, and someone sues on behalf of the impact to the porpoise population in the basin and a judge drastically reduces the that water comes out of it and handicaps any land growth or change to the coast. You just wasted 3 billion dollars on a project that is now worthless.
I think Landry and Dove saw the handwriting on the wall seeking to stop the project now before becoming a bigger problem in the future and a drag to the state if the cost continue to increase in litigation costs and materials.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 6:15 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:27 am to Bard
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We should change the state motto from "Union, Justice and Confidence" to "More Studies Needed".
That would be a good day for me
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:37 am to ragincajun03
I’m so glad my fellow citizens keep voting to dedicate tax money to coastal restoration
Nothing like reading about the state wasting my tax dollars, while sitting in traffic for an hour every morning, because we can’t figure out how to reduce traffic in a relatively small city known as the state capital

Nothing like reading about the state wasting my tax dollars, while sitting in traffic for an hour every morning, because we can’t figure out how to reduce traffic in a relatively small city known as the state capital

Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:40 am to ragincajun03
The only way to save the coastline is to demolish all of the levees along the Mississippi. If you aren’t willing to do that then don’t whine about the eroding coastline.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:45 am to Indefatigable
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the project included almost $400 million dollars to assist the oyster and shrimp guys in the basin that would be impacted.
Yeah...they would have received generational wealth...but they said nah, who wants that.
Idiots.
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