re: Stanford study says masks are ineffective, have devastating health consequences

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I didn't ignore anything.

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The premise of your initial claim was that healthcare workers wear masks all the time for their jobs and is completely untrue. This was explained to you multiple times and you ignored it, literally.

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I was asking what was causing the dangers because if it was simply the masks themselves then that would mean those that wore them for their job were also at risk.

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And you’re still doing it.

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I f the argument is improper mask use has these consequences (Which it seems to be) then I understand the premise of the argument better

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Are you saying you needed to be told the average person reusing a disposable mask for several days at a time would have adverse effects on their health?

And in addition to improper use, healthcare workers were still never wearing masks all the time at their jobs. There’s that thing you keep ignoring afain.

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I’m going to make a hard judgement based on my pre-existing biases

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Are you saying these doctors against masks are must making shite up?

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How much of the mask mandates do you think have been just trying to give people a personal sense of control or the sense that the government has control over COVID versus actually stopping the spread of COVID?

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Personally? I think masks were mandated to keep people calm and give the impression that our elected officials were doing something to keep us all safe during an uncertain time. Somewhere along the way, mask-wearing became political - just like everything else in this country. But that's unsurprising as it's my personal belief that mask-wearing was born from politics.

Bro you're getting way too defensive about a fricking question I asked

Have a good day


Ohh and

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The premise of your initial claim was that healthcare workers wear masks all the time for their jobs and is completely untrue. This was explained to you multiple times and you ignored it, literally.

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I responded to it the first time it was explained. So you may wanna chill out

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It's common knowledge that while not completely effective non N95 masks do cut-down on the spread but sure man whatever you say

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Lol, its not scientifically possible

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It's either because your tin foil hat isn't on correctly or that this is total bullshite. You choose.

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The article is bullshite. Baruch doesn’t work for Stanford. He’s also the single author of the study. The journal is not legitimately peer reviewed. Many of his claims are debunked by other more reputable sources.

Like many have claimed about covid, if what he’s arguing about masks are true, we’d see more bodies on the streets from mask wearing. Many people are wearing masks 6-8 hours a day for work. Where are the health issues?

We can’t say, “Show me the bodies” when the government bullshits about covid and not see this article as a similar piece of contrived bullshite that goes along with our personal beliefs.

Mask wearing is an annoyance and unnecessary because covid and shut downs are overblown. But to claim that mask wearing are having devastating health consequences without actual evidence is not helping anything.

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Because the minor shift in how it spreads through states that have mask mandates seems to indicate to me as a preventative measure it’s failed pretty miserably

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That’s because Michigan is not masking up as well as Mississippi.

It’s Science(TM)

I agree - it’s become a symbol more than a tool.

I’m fully vaccinated as is my wife and she still feels the need to wear a mask into a store. Not because she thinks it accomplishes anything, but she thinks it conveys empathy and if she didn’t wear it she’d get ugly looks.

That about sums up the absolute stupidity of where I think we are as a society.

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Is has been hypothesized that facemasks have compromised safety and efficacy profile and should be avoided from use. The current article comprehensively summarizes scientific evidences with respect to wearing facemasks in the COVID-19 era, providing prosper information for public health and decisions making.

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And this is why I try to stick with the actual study versus the article.

This is just a hypothesis without a peer-reviewed meta analysis to support the hypothesis.

For instance, the study used to support this statement:

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On the other hand, chronic mild or moderate hypoxemia and hypercapnia such as from wearing facemasks resulting in shifting to higher contribution of anaerobic energy metabolism, decrease in pH levels and increase in cells and blood acidity, toxicity, oxidative stress, chronic inflammation, immunosuppression and health deterioration [24], [11], [12], [13].

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Is discussing exercising with face masks on. Not just wearing face masks in general day to day activities. But the study author wants to apply it to both.

This thing is all over the place.

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“To hell with scientific consensus- I’m going to make a hard judgement based on my pre-existing biases and a cherry-picked study”.
- idiots

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The only reason you believe there is a consensus on this is because all media and social medium platforms are trying to silence many respected scientists’ thoughts and opinions from the get go.

Science is not about “consensus,” unless it is something that has failed to be disproven over many, many tests.

Anyone shoving consensus down your throat should be thoroughly challenged.

Up until last year, results from years of experimentation for effectiveness of masking in preventing infection was, at best, mixed but more often showed no significant difference. As a matter of fact, the CDCs’s own journal published a literature review article on 13-14 papers in May 2020 that said something to the effect that there were likely no benefits to mask usage.

Pretty odd how all of a sudden it started working, eh?