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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:45 am to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:45 am to
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This also brings into light the possible reason for the "us vs them" attitude". There aren't any songs that say "Frick the Electrician", "Frick the Pharmacist", etc etc


We're just chasing our tails at this point because I can tell you it's because electricians and pharmacists don't use their job to kill people on occasion and if they did (I guess a pharmacist intentionally giving someone bad medicine) they are arrested and charged.

One thing that will help the police is to move a step or two away from handling their bad cops not a lot different than the Catholic church handles their bad priests. The good ones in each profession far outweigh the bad ones, but when there are bad ones, the good ones have to stop circling the wagons to protect the bad ones or else they are liable to be lumped in with the bad ones as well.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14992 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:56 am to
journalist with integrity

LINK
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:56 am to

800.Yes.
Posted by phil good
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1704 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:00 pm to
Since last night's events were pretty calm you think tonight is going to be wild again? How long can they continue these shenanigans?
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:00 pm to
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There isn't a good central clearinghouse of officer-involved shootings. For the year 2011, there were ~1100 people shot by police, 607 fatally.


I just quoted an article, but I believe those are correct for 2012 since it's based on FBI. I would think they were reliable, but not sure about your guy who did his own internet research.


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Saying that it doesn't happen in 99.9% of incidences is a specious argument. If that's a valid argument, then let's discuss how often police are shot and if they have a reason to be fearful of it based on percentages

That would work if the only weapon used against them were a gun. I'm pretty sure that isnt the case, so like you wanting to compare the two shootings as similar, that would be flawed.

ETA: 800
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14992 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:02 pm to
If you know st.louis, the Hot weather brings out the gun fire and shenanigans.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:45 pm to
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Hoyt
As an African American, I find this whole event very disgusting.


You are like many of the black people I have had the privilege to have been associated with over the years and one of the reasons I try to not make fun of the profile. So many don't fit the profile and I applaud them.
I suspect many in the community are good people. Sadly, if I'm right, they are the silent majority or the ones that were part of a peaceful protest.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:47 pm to
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the good ones have to stop circling the wagons to protect the bad ones or else they are liable to be lumped in with the bad ones as well.


i wish the black community would take this advice as well
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139509 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:55 pm to
So at this point, is this thread all about upping page and post counts?
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12343 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:57 pm to
Gov is now telling the NG to go home.. So bet it gets crazy again soon.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:58 pm to
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here's what I can't figure out: if the cop had the shite beat out of him,


He did not have
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the shite beat out of him
. His only injury of note was “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket”. This takes a pretty good hit in the area but will usually not present as a visual injury immediately. Since it wasn't visible in the video afterward and, obviously, he could perform his duties shortly after the hit only the medical report will indicate how serious it was.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12343 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:59 pm to
Star Witness arrest for making false police reports and theft LINK
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:59 pm to
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i wish the black community would take this advice as well


Don't disagree with that either. Nor with white people who protect their thugs when they commit crimes.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45127 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:00 pm to
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Redbone
Grow a brain and stop regurgitating the media's flames. Let the facts come out, ALL of the facts, at the appropriate time. Then formulate your opinion of what happened.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:04 pm to
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So let me restate -- 12 million arrests a year, 400 fatal shootings, many of them justified.


Extremely good information.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:06 pm to
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If that's a valid argument, then let's discuss how often police are shot and if they have a reason to be fearful of it based on percentages.

I fail to see how this is relevant. Are we supposed to shoot popo in equal numbers just to keep it fair?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12637 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:08 pm to
Sixteen thousand posts
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14992 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Star Witness arrest for making false police reports and theft LINK


link no good??
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Nor with white people who protect their thugs when they commit crimes.

Are you calling the cops thugs?

Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:10 pm to
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kid "charged" the cop winds up shot in the back


trolling, scarcasm or just ignorant??
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