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re: St. George organizers submit petition with signatures
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:05 am to DSTRYRsg
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:05 am to DSTRYRsg
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If EBR would cut out the transfer buses and send all kids to their own neighborhood schools, I'd be all for it.
Where is this occurring? Be specific.
I live in St. George and the schools in my district appear to be neighborhood schools to me.
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:12 am to Lsupimp
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Destroying the Magnet program and the gifted programs
Just FYI.. the gifted program falls under special education needs and is mandated by the state. So any new school district would have to address that issue in some capacity.
Obviously would the quality be as good as it is now?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:13 am to urinetrouble
My son is currently in kindergarten at Shenandoah Elementary. The EBRP system wanted to bus him all the way to Broadmoor Elementary to balance things out. You really think I'm going to send my 5-year old son to that clusterfrick of a transfer bus station?? EBR can't even keep a superintendent for longer than a year or two. It's a total mess.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:14 am to urinetrouble
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Where is this occurring? Be specific.
Are you unaware of the transfer bus station? There are kids being bussed all over the city.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:21 am to DSTRYRsg
quote:You wrote yesterday that you are relatively new to Baton Rouge so I understand that you don't have much knowledge of the geography and demographics of EBR.
why is all of this bussing necessary? Why can't the kids just go to whatever school is in their neighborhood?
The short answer to your question is, students DO go to their neighborhood schools for the most part. But some parts of the city and parish don't have schools in their neighborhood. That's especially true of high schools and students who choose to attend a gifted or magnet school and for high school students who live near Lee High which is under reconstruction.
Here is a website that shows the 'feeder' pattern for schools. You can see that most schools are populated from their nearby neighborhoods. At least you can if you're familiar with the neighborhoods in East Baton Rouge Parish. LINK
If you have specific knowledge of a student who is being bussed past a neighborhood school in order to attend a school further away (other than to attend a magnet or gifted program), please post the specifics. I'd really like to know about it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:24 am to DSTRYRsg
quote:So did they? Or is your son still at Shenandoah?
My son is currently in kindergarten at Shenandoah Elementary. The EBRP system wanted to bus him all the way to Broadmoor Elementary to balance things out.
When you say "to balance things out" do you mean a school capacity issue?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:25 am to DSTRYRsg
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Are you unaware of the transfer bus station? There are kids being bussed all over the city.
I can attest to this - last week I followed a bus of kids getting on the 110 in Scotlandville and got off on Bluebonnet. Too early for field trips at 630am on a Tuesday...
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:30 am to Zantrix
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I can attest to this - last week I followed a bus of kids getting on the 110 in Scotlandville and got off on Bluebonnet. Too early for field trips at 630am on a Tuesday...
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:32 am to DSTRYRsg
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My son is currently in kindergarten at Shenandoah Elementary. The EBRP system wanted to bus him all the way to Broadmoor Elementary to balance things out. You really think I'm going to send my 5-year old son to that clusterfrick of a transfer bus station??
So they gave you the option and you said no? What's the problem?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:32 am to ell_13
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"no chance at a decent education."
Because they live in the ghetto in terrible situations. If they go to their neighborhood school, they are SCREWED. Getting on that bus is what saves them. I want them to continue to be able to get on that bus if that's what they want.
Reluctantly, I have come to the realization (me of all people) that neighborhood schools aren't the answer in 2014. Only PART of the answer. A three-tiered approach of:
1. neighborhood schools with gifted programs,
2.magnet schools for the exceptional students
3. dead-end schools for those who destroy school environments is the answer.
St. George-IMHO- will only replicate the EBRPSS. It will build more schools which are marginally better if we are lucky. It will not remove the worst Gardere kids from sitting next to your kids. It will not allow the best Gardere kids to thrive at magnet schools, but rather destroy the good EBRP schools that give disadvantaged kids a way out.
Look man, I came to this conclusion the hard way. I had to rethink a lot of my earlier ideas about neighborhood schools. This wasn't easy for me. I'm very concerned about what this does to the entire REGION long term if we abandon the good kids to their shitty neighborhoods. Their parents don't have the resources or the inclination to get them out. It's not just about good kids like yours and mine who have the resources to move if we have to.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:39 am to LSURussian
Just saying what I saw chief. This whole transfer bit makes 0 sense to me but I don't have a kid in the fight yet, and if I ever do they sure as shite won't be in EBR schools. Its so damned weird to see busloads of kids going to school having to use the Interstates to get from one end of a parish to the other.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:41 am to Zantrix
quote:And you have ZERO knowledge if that bus was kids being bussed to another school out of their area, chief.
Just saying what I saw chief.
You can assume it was while I look at attendance zone maps and I see it wasn't, chief.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:42 am to Zantrix
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I can attest to this - last week I followed a bus of kids getting on the 110 in Scotlandville and got off on Bluebonnet. Too early for field trips at 630am on a Tuesday...
If that was a transfer bus, why did it bypass the transfer point at N. Sherwood?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:44 am to c on z
Why the hell did it turn back to the north on Bluebonnet? Your guess is as good as mine since I don't know of many schools that way.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:44 am to urinetrouble
quote:That's how I understand what he wrote, too. That damn EBR school system is just SO UNREASONABLE!!!
My son is currently in kindergarten at Shenandoah Elementary. The EBRP system wanted to bus him all the way to Broadmoor Elementary to balance things out. You really think I'm going to send my 5-year old son to that clusterfrick of a transfer bus station??
So they gave you the option and you said no? What's the problem?
That parent sounds like someone who won't take yes for an answer.....
He gets what he wants and he bitches about it. Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:45 am to LSURussian
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And what about the 6,200 magnet students who live in SG but go to schools in Baton Rouge ...
Are you positive that is an accurate number?
I believe there are 42,000 or so kids in the EBR system currently give or take some. That would mean one out of every seven kids in the EBR system go to a magnet school (or gifted) inside the BR city limits.
That might be the case, maybe the Magnet/Gifted program is way larger than I suspected if that many SG kids are in it. How many "city" kids are in it?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:48 am to Lsupimp
quote:It's not just the "ghetto", whatever that means to you. If you look at the list of EBRP high schools (non magnet), none of them would provide my child with a great education. All of them get D's and C's.
Because they live in the ghetto in terrible situations. If they go to their neighborhood school, they are SCREWED.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:49 am to Zantrix
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Its so damned weird
Maybe you don't understand what you are seeing. Those were likely Scotlandville Magnet students or something, but not sure.
Let me explain a bit. My kids go to various magnet schools. My daughter has a bus that brings her directly from her magnet High School. My other two are taken to a transfer spot, where they change buses. Rather than do that, Mrs. Pimp picks the kids up directly.
There is no way to avoid weird bus routes unless we raise a shitload of taxes to build a lot more schools, buy a lot more buses, and hire a shitload of drivers.
Kids either choose to get on the buses or their neighborhood schools are at full capacity and kids then have to get on the bus.
Maybe we need to build more schools, but there is no perfect solution.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:51 am to DSTRYRsg
Some of the bussing is due to parents who have chosen to send their kids to magnet schools across the parish, but I'm pretty sure part of the bussing and transfers you see are due to the No Child Left Behind Act. If a child's neighborhood zoned school is considered failing, that student can choose to go to a higher performing school if there is room. (I'm not sure how they decide what kid goes where.)
Also, students whose neighborhood schools have been taken over by the RSD don't have to go to the RSD school--they can choose to stay in one of the EBRPSS schools. Unfortunately, this requires bussing (sometimes across town) to schools which have spots available.
For example, from the Feeder pattern link Russian posted earlier LINK, Claiborne Elementary feeds into Prescott Middle (an RSD school), or if the parent chooses to stay in the EBRPSS, they are zoned to attend Southeast, Westdale, or Brookstown Middle schools. Again, I'm not sure how students are assigned to different schools.
Also, students whose neighborhood schools have been taken over by the RSD don't have to go to the RSD school--they can choose to stay in one of the EBRPSS schools. Unfortunately, this requires bussing (sometimes across town) to schools which have spots available.
For example, from the Feeder pattern link Russian posted earlier LINK, Claiborne Elementary feeds into Prescott Middle (an RSD school), or if the parent chooses to stay in the EBRPSS, they are zoned to attend Southeast, Westdale, or Brookstown Middle schools. Again, I'm not sure how students are assigned to different schools.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:53 am to Zantrix
quote:No, my guess is BETTER than yours. There is no attendance zone that goes from north of I-110 to the Bluebonnet area except possibly for special needs students which is mandated by federal law. Handicapped kids, or kids who are considered homeless or disadvantaged, are required to have special arrangements for them to attend school. Look up the "McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act" as it pertains to kids going to school.
Your guess is as good as mine since I don't know of many schools that way.
SG will have to comply with that same federal mandate if it wants to receive federal funds for its budget.
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