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re: Spoke to a plumber today who gave good advice on faucets for the freeze
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:42 pm to FreeState
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:42 pm to FreeState
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Slab or not, water lines in exterior walls will freeze.
You build houses without insulation?
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If water line is on an exterior wall, such as kitchen sink, open up the doors beneath the sink, or bathroom sink, etc. Let some warm air get in there.
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here? You're saying to expose water lines to the outside cold air?
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:43 pm to LNCHBOX
These are for pier and beam homes. Should have said that from the beginning.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:44 pm to LNCHBOX
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There's absolutely no need to do this if your house is on a slab.
It's not uncommon for a house on a slab to have the water pipes in the attic
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're saying to expose water lines to the outside cold air?
The warm air in the house
I’ve done this my entire life as did my parents & grandparents
I thought everyone did this
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:45 pm to tigeraddict
For outside faucets that have a separate, interior valve that shuts off water to that valve.
After shutting off the interior valve, open the outside faucet to allow any residual water drain and in case the rarely used interior valve leaks slightly.
I'd say still cover the outside faucet with a cover.
After shutting off the interior valve, open the outside faucet to allow any residual water drain and in case the rarely used interior valve leaks slightly.
I'd say still cover the outside faucet with a cover.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:46 pm to UncleLester
He probably had no idea I was going to turn around and put it on a message board trying to help lots of people out.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:46 pm to LSUJML
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The warm air in the house
I’ve done this my entire life as did my parents & grandparents
I thought everyone did this
I don't have words for this
You think you need to open cabinets that are inside your heated house to help with pipes freezing?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:46 pm to piratedude
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There's absolutely no need to do this if your house is on a slab.
your feeder lines in attic can freeze
What? If your house is on a slab the waterline run in the slab not the attic
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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There's absolutely no need to do this if your house is on a slab.
Partially correct.
Keeping a VERY small drip stream going on an interior faucet ensures the water entering the house is moving and moving water is harder to freeze.
So typically the main entering the house is an outside pipe with a hose bib on it. Keeping that 1 pipe and faucet from freezing is what running the water helps.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:47 pm to financetiger
You can easily freeze a cold water line feeding a fixture if the hot water is running.
Everything depends on the layout of your water systems and the location of your water lines.
Everything depends on the layout of your water systems and the location of your water lines.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:48 pm to doubleb
Hot water freezes faster than cold water
Look up the Mpemba effect
Look up the Mpemba effect
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:48 pm to financetiger
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From the way he explained, bubble wrap should be fine if it's wrapped thick enough. It's the wind you are protecting against. I'm sure if you wrap it thick enough you should be good.
If the temperature is 33 degrees and the wind is blowing 100mph a pipe will never freeze.
If there is no wind and the temp stays below freezing a pipe can freeze.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:49 pm to LNCHBOX
We have always done it
Opened cabinet under sink & left laundry room door open
You might think it’s stupid but we have never had issues & it takes half a second to open a door
Opened cabinet under sink & left laundry room door open
You might think it’s stupid but we have never had issues & it takes half a second to open a door
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:50 pm to LSUJML
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We have always done it
Opened cabinet under sink & left laundry room door open
You might think it’s stupid but we have never had issues & it takes half a second to open a door
Should I also open up my fridge and run a fan facing inside to help cool things down?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:51 pm to LNCHBOX
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This is a big reason to not run water all night. There's absolutely no need to do this if your house is on a slab.
If you have a house with a slab on grade, the water service isn’t exposed and the water heater is in a heated room your only exposure is a hose bib or a fixture on an exterior wall and it’s not properly insulated (batt insulation in wrong place relative to plumbing).
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Hot water freezes faster than cold water
Yes it does. The molecules are farther apart
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
I’m just telling you all what he told me today. He is a master plumber and has been through many years of freezes. Said this is the first year he isn’t taking 24 he call so he won’t be having to go out if they get the call. He told me he worked the last one and told me the causes of the majority of problems which are listed in the original post. Just thought I’d try and help some people.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:53 pm to Meauxjeaux
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So typically the main entering the house is an outside pipe with a hose bib on it. Keeping that 1 pipe and faucet from freezing is what running the water helps.
Why plumbers do this is criminal.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:54 pm to LNCHBOX
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You think you need to open cabinets that are inside your heated house to help with pipes freezing?
If you have problems with the lines to the kitchen sink freezing, very common as the counter is often against an outside wall, opening the cabinets below said sink will generally prevent the problem from occurring.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:57 pm to financetiger
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He is a master plumber
Well I'm a master baiter and I'm telling you that hot water freezes quicker than cold water
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