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re: Spinoff thread: What questions do you have about 9/11?

Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:00 am to
Posted by Bengal96
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:00 am to
Yeah, no car bombs in the US, nothing happening at the water treatment facilities, nothing at sporting events, concerts. Interesting isn't it. But the big bad boogieman terrorists are living right under our noses. GTFO
Posted by Bengal96
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:06 am to
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I used to believe 2. I used to thnk the "no-planers" were among the most delirious.

However, after watching videos like this I'm not so sure. Planes don't "melt" into buildings. This I'm pretty sure of.



In this video about the book, Phillip Marshall explains where these planes came from, the money trail from the Saudis, and how FBI agents were stonewalled when trying to investigate the weird things going on prior to 9/11
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:10 am to
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The boxcutters they brought on board were legal at the time.



I will never understand how TWO hijackers were able to take over a whole plane full of passangers with just boxcutters...
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:15 am to
You really don't understand? We were not ready. End of story.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:17 am to
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Yeah, no car bombs in the US, nothing happening at the water treatment facilities, nothing at sporting events, concerts. Interesting isn't it. But the big bad boogieman terrorists are living right under our noses. GTFO

Yeah, it was awfully "considerate" of those "terrorists" to fly directly over a nuclear plant (that could have killed millions) and crash, not into Wall Street (thus disrupting our economy) but two towers, whose owner had just taken control of the buildings and significantly increased the insurance on them despite its asbestos problems that would have required billions to remove.
But instead, Lucky Larry made billions on his six-month investment from the insurance. And poof, asbestos problem solved.
Posted by Rich Kotite
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:17 am to
durr durr jet fuel steel beams im a frickin lamp head durrrr
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:22 am to
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I used to believe 2. I used to thnk the "no-planers" were among the most delirious.

However, after watching videos like this I'm not so sure. Planes don't "melt" into buildings. This I'm pretty sure of.





In this video about the book, Phillip Marshall explains where these planes came from, the money trail from the Saudis, and how FBI agents were stonewalled when trying to investigate the weird things going on prior to 9/11

Bookmarked the video for later.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:25 am to
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The terrorists impact?


they made air travel for normal people a headache


they basically won
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:26 am to
I'm not one to discount ALL of the conspiracy theories out there now and in the past, but, with regard to 9/11, I say that you are mistaken on this one. You've got it all wrong here.

Pick another conspiracy theory, OP. This one stinks.

9/11 is what DoD says it is.

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:30 am to
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Pick another conspiracy theory, OP. This one stinks.
What is my conspiracy theory?

quote:

9/11 is what DoD says it is.
Because Occam's Razor says that a government that lies, cheats and steals from you, probably told you the truth about that day.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:31 am to
So the WTC "attacks" were just an insurance fraud scheme by Lucky Larry?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:33 am to
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So the WTC "attacks" were just an insurance fraud scheme by Lucky Larry?
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:35 am to
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I will never understand how TWO hijackers were able to take over a whole plane full of passangers with just boxcutters...


It was a little more involved than that.

They studied and picked a day and time when the planes would be half full or less.

They apparently also had mace or something similar.

They either implied or directly stated that they had bombs.

Second hand information suggests that they made an example out of a flight attendant and/or passenger and threatened to kill more unless they were granted access to the cockpit.
---as a corollary, there is also anecdotal evidence that on at least one plane, a terrorist was already in the cockpit jump seat as a guest.

Pilots and passengers figured that they were just being used as ransom bait so active resistance would just lead to them getting killed.

Put it all together and Tiger Ryno was right. We just weren't ready and were playing with an outdated rule book.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:38 am to
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I will never understand how TWO hijackers were able to take over a whole plane full of passangers with just boxcutters...
And not a single beheading. These guys were obviously amateurs.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:45 am to
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Put it all together and Tiger Ryno was right. We just weren't ready and were playing with an outdated rule book.
The greatest and most well-funded military and defense system in the history of man, simply got taken by surprise that day.

Yeah, that's believable.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:49 am to
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The greatest and most well-funded military and defense system in the history of man, simply got taken by surprise that day.


United and American airlines are not part of the military.

And, strictly from a technical standpoint, nobody was taken by surprise. The information to stop this was there but just scattered among multiple agencies that were not sharing with each other.

Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:50 am to
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Pick another conspiracy theory, OP. This one stinks.
What's my conspiracy?

Still waiting.

I've asked this question ad nauseam. If you sheople are going to continue to call me a conspiracy theorist, the least you could do is tell me what my conspiracy theory is.


tia
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:51 am to
The were FIVE hijackers on three of the planes and FOUR on the other. (Or at least that's what the real perpetrators would like to have the sheople believe.)
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:53 am to
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the least you could do is tell me what my conspiracy theory is.


You haven't really articulated any theory, as far as I can tell, aside from a wordy bunch of sentences that basically amount to "No way"

So, I'll turn it around and directly ask you: In a few sentences, describe what you feel happened.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:54 am to
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The were FIVE hijackers on three of the planes and FOUR on the other. (Or at least that's what the real perpetrators would like to have the sheople believe.)


I won't speak for him but I guess he was asking how the terrorists were able to control the passengers once two were presumably at the controls.
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