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re: Spinoff: Heaven and Serial Killers
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:46 am to bamabkj
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:46 am to bamabkj
If you (1) trust that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and (2) believe that He lived a mortal life, died on the cross as a sacrifice for your sins, and rose from the dead and (3) have faith that belief in that sacrifice is the ONLY way to Heaven and (4) truly and honestly repent and ask forgiveness for your sins through him and God the Father, then yes, you can rape and kill as many babies as you want and still go to Heaven.
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:51 am to Otto Scorzany
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God knows what is truly in your heart. Just because you can bull shite your priest or minister, doesn’t mean you’ve bull shitted God.
This is why the Catholic church is such a fraud.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:54 am to Muthsera
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If you (1) trust that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and (2) believe that He lived a mortal life, died on the cross as a sacrifice for your sins, and rose from the dead and (3) have faith that belief in that sacrifice is the ONLY way to Heaven and (4) truly and honestly repent and ask forgiveness for your sins through him and God the Father, then yes, you can rape and kill as many babies as you want and still go to Heaven.
My God is not an a-hole that only loves Christians and damns the 4+ billion Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
I've never understood how people can be so short-sighted.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 7:54 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:56 am to Lawyered
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You can be a shite person and commit crimes but right before you die , you admit you’re a sinner, admit belief in Jesus and call upon him to enter your heart and boom it’s done
I know a lot religious people believe this way but I don't. If being on your death bed is what finally motivated you to ask for forgiveness I don't think it will be granted.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:57 am to Epic Cajun
Yes. But there is no Jesus
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:57 am to offshoretrash
Contrition motivated by your expiration is like a contract made under duress. Doesn't pass the smell test, at least to me.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:59 am to Muthsera
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If you (1) trust that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and (2) believe that He lived a mortal life, died on the cross as a sacrifice for your sins, and rose from the dead and (3) have faith that belief in that sacrifice is the ONLY way to Heaven and (4) truly and honestly repent and ask forgiveness for your sins through him and God the Father, then yes, you can rape and kill as many babies as you want and still go to Heaven.
The problem with your logic is if someone follows your four items, then they aren't gong to rape and kill. That's like being a Flordia fan and rooting for Georgia.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:02 am to Brodie Lee 37
Yep, and Judea is a fictional place with fictional cities.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:03 am to Rouge
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My God is not an a-hole that only loves Christians and damns the 4+ billion Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
So people can believe or do as they wish and your God is fine with that? If that's the case then there is no God.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:04 am to offshoretrash
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If that's the case then there is no God.
It depends on your conception of God, really. A God or gods can theoretically exist without any form of faith.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:05 am to bamabkj
Here's an interesting story on Jeffrey Dahmer and his jailhouse conversion
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:08 am to offshoretrash
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So people can believe or do as they wish and your God is fine with that? If that's the case then there is no God.
You don't follow me. Belief in Jesus or Allah or Yahweh or Krishna is not the only way to enlightenment. They are not the only paths to God.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 8:09 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:12 am to bamabkj
As long as he invites christ in to his heart as his lord and savior he will be saved.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:13 am to bamabkj
Where was God for the people he killed? What was wrong with what was in their hearts?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:14 am to Pvt Hudson
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Where was God for the people he killed? What was wrong with what was in their hearts?
A fundamental element of Christian theology (unless you're a dirty Calvinist) is free will. That allows Man to do evil with no intercession from God.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 8:15 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:15 am to Loup
quote:honest question....do you think all Jews go to hell?
Loup
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:15 am to Brodie Lee 37
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I don’t believe in made up places in a made book full of made up stories
*tips fedora*
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:16 am to Rex Feral
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if someone follows your four items
Sin is inherent to mankind; no one chooses to rebel against God, it is in our very nature to be fearful and deceitful and proud before Him.
It is no more likely for some African warlord who lives a life of wanton slaughter to find himself abased before God than the most virtuous Christian. And if the former should pick up the Holy Bible in the twilight of his life while the latter puts his down, well then, one belongs in the infinite presence of the Almighty and the other will be vomited out of God's mouth with the agnostics and atheists.
Christianity is not a Choose Your Own Adventure book or an all you can eat buffet, no matter what 21st Century churches tell us. "Jesus loves you! Go ahead- skip the mustard greens and go right to the chocolate fountain! We are all equal before God!"
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:16 am to bamabkj
I simply accepted the fact that it’s not my place to ever judge the fate of another individual. I kind if like what Marines say, “God passes judgement. We just arrange the meeting.” I kind take a similar approach, but not so lethal.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:17 am to Muthsera
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Christianity is not a Choose Your Own Adventure book or an all you can eat buffet, no matter what 21st Century churches tell us. "Jesus loves you! Go ahead- skip the mustard greens and go right to the chocolate fountain! We are all equal before God!"
Basically, it's orthodoxy and not orthopraxy.
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