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Speaking of Catapult Launches - Here's an Athwartship Launch of a Hellcat from the Hornet
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 6/24/23 at 8:13 am to blueridgeTiger
You’d have to be real confident of your abilities, or downright crazy to do that.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:39 pm to blueridgeTiger
Interesting short piece. Some thoughts:
(1) The article talks about launching scout planes, presumably the relatively light scout planes like battleships and cruisers could launch. But the airplanes shown are larger / heavier combat aircraft.
(2) What makes carrier air operations work relatively well is that you turn into a 20 kt wind and work the carrier up to 30 kts, so you have 50 kts over the wings with the airplane standing still relative to the flight deck. Remember the film of the Dootlittle raid, where it looks like the bombers are going so slowly when they take off? They could probably take off going only about 40 kts relative to the flight deck. But when you launch out the side of the carrier doing other air operations, you're launching into a 50 kt crosswind!
(1) The article talks about launching scout planes, presumably the relatively light scout planes like battleships and cruisers could launch. But the airplanes shown are larger / heavier combat aircraft.
(2) What makes carrier air operations work relatively well is that you turn into a 20 kt wind and work the carrier up to 30 kts, so you have 50 kts over the wings with the airplane standing still relative to the flight deck. Remember the film of the Dootlittle raid, where it looks like the bombers are going so slowly when they take off? They could probably take off going only about 40 kts relative to the flight deck. But when you launch out the side of the carrier doing other air operations, you're launching into a 50 kt crosswind!
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:51 pm to blueridgeTiger
I would definitely keep my hatch open so I could get out of that thing if there was a water landing.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:29 pm to LongueCarabine
I bet the throttle on those planes is bent from being shoved against the forward stop.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:26 am to blueridgeTiger
I built ship models for a time when I was a kid and those athwartship* catapults and planes always seemed crazy to me even as a ~12yo.
*learned a new word today
*learned a new word today
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:28 am to blueridgeTiger
They were really figuring things out as they went along back then.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:31 am to blueridgeTiger
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This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 6:49 am
Posted on 6/25/23 at 2:26 am to blueridgeTiger
USS Alabama battleship had catapults on the rear deck for scout craft. I'm sure others did as well
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:14 pm to blueridgeTiger
I guess the advantage would be having a plane always ready to launch while keeping the flight deck clear. AFAIK the newer Essex class didn't have this so they must have decided they didn't need it.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 9:51 am to blue_morrison
quote:Battleships and cruisers commonly carried scout aircraft that they could catapult off the stern or amidships, and cranes to lift them back aboard (after they landed in the water, using floats). How useful / effective those scout planes turned out to be is debatable. But the idea is that they could find targets and/or warn of threats, and also spot fall of shot to improve long-range gunnery.
USS Alabama battleship had catapults on the rear deck for scout craft. I'm sure others did as well
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