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re: Some Tampa Bay Rays players refuse to wear rainbow gear on pride night

Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:38 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:38 am to
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That’s ok, he can get out of that mood and be ok again, but you’ll always be gay Once a penis enters your mouth there’s no turning back


And it’s evidence that you have no argument when the best you can manage is calling a straight man gay. And then the next part is where you double down and insist, and while thinking yourself tremendously clever
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57860 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:39 am to
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Your side literally has people who want to normalize pedophilia. Your side wants to teach children about disgusting immoral acts with the help of fricking drag queens and you will defend them! Simultaneously if someone dares to say Jesus is the reason for the season in school, you want to bring the full weight of the doj upon them. You are against all things morally right, you know it too.



I always find it strange when the left tries to pretend this isn't what they are about. They'll tell you, "this is just an isolated incident" or "that isn't what we are about" or "we don't want this happening ALL the time" and at the same time will call you out for objecting to anything right of child grooming.

Lefties, just own it. You are FOR drag queen story time, grooming, and pedophilia. Stop pretending it's not a tenant of your political masters.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17840 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:45 am to
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Nope, but they have very large budgets, and therefore do need tax revenue. Lol.


So they basically operate in the same way of the fed. As in they don’t care about tax revenue. They will spend money regardless if it’s funded or not. My point remains, and is proven yet again.

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Yep, Canadians banning gay conversion therapy definitely shows that Christians are persecuted in the United States. Silly me.


It applies to anyone or any entity. If a person goes to their pastor and says they want to be a man/woman/cat, the pastor can not say anything to dissuade them lest the law come and punish the pastor.

Let me make this simple for you. I’m going to give you two situations, you tell me which is allowable in this country today.

1. A pastor wants to go to a school and teach kids about the Bible.

2. A drag queen wants to go into a school and teach kids about his life choices and the immoral acts he/it chooses to partake in.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 7:48 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:45 am to
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Because yeah, I have a hard time seeing the link between OP crying about an as-of-yet-to-materialize uproar by the Twitterati and a fictional symbol of resistance against government oppression

You've got a resistance symbol as your avi and you're shitting on people who are resisting being forced to do some thing.

And you don't see why people are calling you out? Can have at least a modicum of self awareness?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17840 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:47 am to
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I always find it strange when the left tries to pretend this isn't what they are about. They'll tell you, "this is just an isolated incident" or "that isn't what we are about" or "we don't want this happening ALL the time" and at the same time will call you out for objecting to anything right of child grooming. Lefties, just own it. You are FOR drag queen story time, grooming, and pedophilia. Stop pretending it's not a tenant of your political masters.


It is the reason they hate libs of tictok so much. They have to look in the mirror, and deep down they know they are wrong on many levels. Rather than changing themselves, they want everyone else to change for them. Going so far as to change the morals of our country if possible.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32885 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:52 am to
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You've got a resistance symbol as your avi and you're shitting on people who are resisting being forced to do some thing.

And you don't see why people are calling you out? Can have at least a modicum of self awareness?



Perfect microcosm of this thread.

I've said, repeatedly, that I have no issue with what the guys did in refusing to wear the patch. None whatsoever. To the point that I went back and edited my OP to clarify, knowing that most people don't actually read the entire thread. My objection is to OP waxing poetic about his perception of Christian persecution here:

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Ruh Ro Rorge…. Some brave Christians decided that following Jesus was more important than genuflecting to the collective’s mantra. This can only end badly to thumb your nose at the collective, but then Jesus Himself said that following Him would come at a cost, so there you have it. I wonder how this plays out.


Because no, I don't think Christians are persecuted in this country. And yes, I think their obsession with claiming that they are is absurd.

Still no issue with the guys refusing to wear patches, though.

But being people apparently can't get over an avatar I've had for a decade and has absolutely zero to do with this thread: in V for Vendetta, Christians in positions of power were a major target of V's wrath. So no, my avatar isn't in the least bit ironic in the context of this thread
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 7:53 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:54 am to
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So no, my avatar isn't in the least bit ironic in the context of this thread

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32885 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:56 am to
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upgrayedd


Ignoring all of the content in my post to pick out one sentence and reply with a snarky gif? Oh come on, you're better than that
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 7:58 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 7:59 am to
There's really no changing your mind of the ultimate irony of your statements, so there's no need to drag things out.

Just tip your fedora and bow out.


This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 8:01 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32885 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:01 am to
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There's really no changing your mind of the ultimate irony of your statements, so there's no need to drag things out.

Just tip your fedora and bow out.


Not even an acknowledgment that your fundamental premise, that I was "shitting on people who are resisting being forced to do some thing", is patently false?

Genuinely thought you were better than this.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7850 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:08 am to
New York Times
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“When people use their interpretation of religion to justify discrimination against people for the way they were born, it’s really an indictment of them and their faith,” said the author Andrew Maraniss, who wrote a biography of Burke, who died in 1995, titled “Singled Out” that published last year. “Acknowledging that people are people and all fans are welcome, that’s not something you should be able to opt out of.”

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In 2016, when Chris Sale, a White Sox pitcher at the time, refused to pitch in a retro uniform the team was planning for his start — he said it was uncomfortable — he took scissors to the jerseys and destroyed them. The White Sox suspended him five games for insubordination and destruction of team equipment. “While we all appreciate Chris’ talent and passion,” White Sox General Manager Rick Hahn said in a statement then, “there is a correct way and an incorrect way to express concerns about team rules and organizational expectations.” While the situations are not analogous, the last part of Hahn’s statement seems to resonate here. By creating special uniforms for Pride Night, the Rays were expressing their beliefs as an organization. As the primary messengers for the franchise, the players should have been expected to reflect that position. If doing so made them uncomfortable, they could have been given the night off.

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All of this can be exhausting for fans who would rather take their sports without politics, yet an event like Pride Night should stand apart. It is meant to be a collective show of unity, without judgment, yet some players were allowed to send a different message. In any case — if you believe in such things — karma got the last word on Saturday. The relievers in the standard-issue uniforms immediately gave up a two-run lead, sending the home team to defeat.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32885 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:09 am to
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So they basically operate in the same way of the fed. As in they don’t care about tax revenue. They will spend money regardless if it’s funded or not. My point remains, and is proven yet again.


You've never actually watched a legislative committee hearing, have you? That's the only way you could be this certain of a position that's so clearly incorrect. I'm certainly not arguing that those in the state legislature are paragons of fiscal virtue, but to act like they don't care how much money comes into the coffers? Stop it...

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Let me make this simple for you. I’m going to give you two situations, you tell me which is allowable in this country today.

1. A pastor wants to go to a school and teach kids about the Bible.

2. A drag queen wants to go into a school and teach kids about his life choices and the immoral acts he/it chooses to partake in.



Both are allowable, if they aren't mandatory. Both are sometimes made mandatory, when they should not be.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:11 am to
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Not even an acknowledgment that your fundamental premise, that I was "shitting on people who are resisting being forced to do some thing", is patently false?

Genuinely thought you were better than this.


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There's is 100% a push to link "Evangelical Christians" (who are likely the ones to resist the prevailing woke agendas promulgated through every strata of society) to extreme acts. To say there is no attempt to demonize and go after Christians who resist is just sticking your head in the sand. Is that good enough for you, chief? You're just plain fricking wrong.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84721 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:30 am to
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Because no, I don't think Christians are persecuted in this country. And yes, I think their obsession with claiming that they are is absurd


For the record, we feel the same way about your woke people. Always fantasizing about being oppressed even while literally being in power.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:31 am to
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Your side
Stopped right there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:33 am to
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here's really no changing your mind of the ultimate irony of your statements


He's extremely emotional about tranny issues for some reason. Look at the way he lashes out when you discuss trannies.

Craziness.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:36 am to
Do these guys abstain from other behaviors that Jesus would have them abstain from?

Or is wearing a rainbow the deal breaker?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:37 am to
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Or is wearing a rainbow the deal breaker?


I wouldn't wear it.

Do you make a habit of supporting things you actually don't really support? Because if you do...
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 8:38 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:44 am to
I didn’t say they should wear it. I don’t wear rainbow stuff because I don’t care to.

I’m just asking if these guys abstain from other things Jesus wants them to or if this is too much. All these guys abstain from pre-marital sex? Theyre all faithful to their wives I assume?

People use religion as an excuse for some things but ignore it for other things. I don’t particularly care if they wear the hats, or if they cheat on their wives.
Posted by KurtSchrute
Member since Oct 2017
913 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 8:44 am to
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They hate free men. Because free men can’t be ruled. A free man isn’t bound, isn’t obligated. He gives his sword where he chooses and isn’t forced.

And they detest that

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