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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:17 am to
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:17 am to
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It probably does because it isn't 3 divided by 1 and then divided by 3.

It is 3 divided by 1/3.



No way all of you guys were wrong.
Then the problem was probably written different in the text written form where operations can be represented in their exact form (e.g., an exponent is shown as a superscript instead of a ^).
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:17 am to
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Based purely as written:
3 divided by 1 = 3. 3/3=1. 9-1=8. 8+1=9. The answer is 9.

Correct, which is why calculators will tell you 9. They simply solve the equation with zero assumptions
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:18 am to
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There are multiple ways to solve this problem depending on order of operations




The frick there is. The whole point of order of operations is that there is one way to correctly solve math.
quote:

Based purely as written:
3 divided by 1 = 3. 3/3=1. 9-1=8. 8+1=9. The answer is 9.



"Purely as written" is the only way to correctly solve math problems. Anything else is arbitrary nonsense.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:19 am to
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Suck it everybody!
In that very explanation the first thing the say is calculators give you 9

Then they go and change the equation by adding a ()

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:19 am to
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Then the problem was probably written different in the text written form where operations can be represented in their exact form (e.g., an exponent is shown as a superscript instead of a ^).
That is what I have been saying!

The way it appeared in the OP was a format problem.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:19 am to
See I got it even more fricked up. I did

9 – 3/1/3 + 1
= 9 – 3/3 + 1
= 9 – 1 + 1
= 9 - 2
= 7

You know because MDAS addition before subtraction
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:19 am to
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It's properly written for anyone that knows how to properly solve a math problem.
It wasn't. It was ambiguous.

The 1/3 was intended to be a fraction, in which case if you're typing it out you have to use either ? or (1/3). Otherwise, if you just type out 3/1/3, it should be evaluated left to right.


Edit: I guess that didn't work, so for those confused that ? should look like an actual 1/3 fraction.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:20 am to
Hey, all Scruffy saw was 3 divided by 1/3.

You were wrong.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:21 am to
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It wasn't. It was ambiguous.

The 1/3 was intended to be a fraction, in which case if you're typing it out you have to use either ? or (1/3). Otherwise, if you just type out 3/1/3, it should be evaluated left to right.
Ding ding ding

We have a winner.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:21 am to
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It wasn't. It was ambiguous.


No it isn't.

quote:

The 1/3 was intended to be a fraction


Link?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:22 am to
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Hey, all Scruffy saw was 3 divided by 1/3.

You were wrong.
I am going to find a dildo shaped calculator, type the problem in, then throw it at your face as it shows 9
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:22 am to
This is stupid. Why would anyone write it like that. And use multiple division symbols.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:22 am to
This thread is awesome.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104490 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:22 am to
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The 1/3 was intended to be a fraction
Doesnt matter what it was intended to be. As written it is 9
Posted by dat yat
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:22 am to
I get 9. That's following PEMDAS without inserting parenthesis that aren't there or assuming the 1/3 is a given.

quote:

It's all in how you interpret a shitty written problem.


If the problem itself was shitty and it happened to be written, you could call it a shitty written problem. However, if the problem with the problem is the shitty manner in which it was written you should use the adverbial form of the modifier shitty, shittily.

It's all in how you interpret a shittily written problem.



Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:22 am to
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That is what I have been saying!

The way it appeared in the OP was a format problem.
Well the the OP wrote the wrong problem then. The problem he asked to be solved has an answer of 9.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75103 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:23 am to
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I am going to find a dildo shaped calculator, type the problem in, then throw it at your face as it shows 9


Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75103 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:24 am to
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Well the the OP wrote the wrong problem then. The problem he asked to be solved has an answer of 9.
Y'all read the problem wrong. Y'all assumed it wasn't 1/3.









Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:25 am to
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No it isn't.
It was, because OP was trying to use spacing to indicate 1/3 was a fraction.

quote:

Link?
The source of the problem
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:26 am to
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Right off the bat they change the equation by adding parenthesis
OP changed the equation because it couldn't be typed out as intended.
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