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re: So the whole seal team 6 deal has always confused me
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:52 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:52 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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That's cute that you believe the publicly available number.
I'm curious about how many actual SEALS you know. Go ahead.
1
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:52 am to Broke
Just for clarity SMU’s consist of: Delta, Regimental Recon Comapny from 75th, DEVRGRU, and the Air Force’s 24th Special Tactical Squadron. None of this stuff is classified by the way
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:55 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I'm not a huge fan of SOCOM, the SEALs in particular.
Nothing wrong with SOCOM. Most SEALs are garbage, and I say that with first hand kinetic mission experience with them. Out of working with a whole platoon of them I only liked one, and it’s no surprise that the one I liked was the only seal able to go on missions with one of the oda teams I also went on missions with.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:56 am to boxcarbarney
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a former Team 6 member, wrote a book
Committing to writing a book after you get out is also a prerequisite to being selected.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:58 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:Disagree. SOCOM is a huge problem. There's a good discussion on this very issue on the poliboard right now. LINK
Nothing wrong with SOCOM
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:59 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I'm not a huge fan of SOCOM, the SEALs in particular.
You mind if I ask why?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:01 am to GeauxxxTigers23
No offense but I don’t really care what the Politards are saying. I will agree that the Military as a whole is a shite show, but don’t let the bad apples outshine the fine men of our special operations community. Case in point, SSG Melgar allegedly doing the right thing.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 11:02 am
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:02 am to boxcarbarney
quote:I'll refer you to the link just above your post. Pretty good discussion in there with a lot of experienced military dudes including former SOF operators.
You mind if I ask why?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:02 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:You know Raiders are the coolest frat that nobody really even talks about.
It's basically the coolest frat in the military. Doesn't mean they're really all that good but they have the most money and the coolest toys.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:02 am to Broke
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I'm curious about how many actual SEALS you know. Go ahead.
How many I know? One. Had 3 pretty good friends that were on Extortion 17 though.
And more importantly I was in the military myself for 26 years and can tell you that what you know publicly isn't what exists on most things, do you really believe that the military has allowed the real number of SEAL teams we have to become public knowledge?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:04 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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including former SOF operators.
Oh for fricks sake
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:05 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:My problems with SOCOM have very little to do with how professional or not the operators are, except for the SEALs of course, and more to do with what it's done to the military as a whole. The existence of SOCOM and it's unchecked funding and constant lust to find more and more missions, the majority of which could be accomplished by conventional forces, is the problem. I'm not shitting on anybody....except the SEALs of course.
I will agree that the Military as a whole is a shite show, but don’t let the bad apples outshine the fine men of our special operations community.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:06 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:I don't know why you're being such a fricking dick. I know for sure that one is retired Green Beret and one is a Recon Marine. Calm your tits.
Oh for fricks sake
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:09 am to GeauxxxTigers23
This is why I don’t take what the poliboard says seriously
I don’t even know where to begin with this but it’s untrue. Grooming standards are mission dependent, they definetely have supervision, and they can’t/don’t go around killing anyone they see fit.
In theory I agree with you. In practicality it would cost way too much (financially and politically) for conventional forces to do what special ops are doing now.
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It's to the point that they really aren't even military anymore. They have little supervision, no grooming standards, and basically have a license to kill as they see fit
I don’t even know where to begin with this but it’s untrue. Grooming standards are mission dependent, they definetely have supervision, and they can’t/don’t go around killing anyone they see fit.
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The existence of SOCOM and it's unchecked funding and constant lust to find more and more missions, the majority of which could be accomplished by conventional forces, is the problem
In theory I agree with you. In practicality it would cost way too much (financially and politically) for conventional forces to do what special ops are doing now.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 11:11 am
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:13 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:You do you man. I don't really care. The poliboard is like every other board here. You have to sift though mountains of stupidity to find anything worthwhile, just like the OT or the rant.
This is why I don’t take what the poliboard says seriously
quote:Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Reduce funding to the special units and give it back to the conventional units and stop fleecing them of their best people.
In theory I agree with you. In practicality it would cost way too much (financially and politically) for conventional forces to do what special ops are doing now.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:18 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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You have to sift though mountains of stupidity
Your welcome
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:18 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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How many I know? One.
So exactly how many I know.
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And more importantly I was in the military myself
Ok, so was I.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:24 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Reduce funding to the special units and give it back to the conventional units and stop fleecing them of their best people.
Wait what? Fleecing them of their best people? Explain.
Also, conventional units played a big role in liberating Iraq along with the surge in Afghanistan. Conventional units will always play a huge role in major conflicts. It would be a total misallocation of resources to have conventional units conduct special operation missions just because you don’t deem them special. That isn’t what conventional units are for.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:30 am to boxcarbarney
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they named it the 6th team to make our enemies believe that we had a lot more operators than we actually did.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:32 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
How about you write a paper on it?
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