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re: Snow Tease for Baton Rouge (Saturday) UPDATE (1/20)

Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35627 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Which models are more reliable with winter storms?


None are super reliable, especially in the deep south where its hard to get enough cold with moisture.

The good news is the big questions on the model are larger scale stuff the globals might sniff out in the next day or two. The bad news is we have two awfully complex interactions between a southern shortwave and a bigger northern trough.

We need them to come together in a way that causes more cold air to come down and leaves a bit of energy trailing to lift the moisture in the now cold.

The GFS splits the two features and doesnt get the cold down. The euro brings them together but in such a way it just brings cold air. Canadians are in line with Euro but its cold bias means it produces wintery stuff vs. liquid.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29390 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

quote: Yeah this didn't happen He’s already shown that it did happen.

Hell I didn’t even grow up here and I knew about the ice in 89. A friend of mine had pictures of him and his bro standing on the ice.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54296 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:03 pm to
I get nervous walking on Northern ice/frozen lakes when I know they are frozen solid. I don't think I would have the balls to walk on a "frozen" lake in the South, much less in SE Lousiana. Nope, nope, nope.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35627 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:09 pm to
The sound of the ice cracking still makes me nervous, even after I saw a truck drive over it.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
9719 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:15 pm to
Thanks Duke. We shall what happens
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7353 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 2:59 pm to
This should make my flight to MSY entertaining on Friday
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:03 pm to
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We need them to come together
Okay, Joe.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:25 pm to






Another model run (18z NAM) picking up the possibility of freezing rain for overnight Thursday into early Friday morning
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12987 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:27 pm to

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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service New Orleans LA
247 PM CST Mon Jan 17 2022


quote:

The long term forecast is very uncertain given the large differences
in the model guidance Friday through Sunday. Some models, like the
GFS ensembles, show some a lingering frontal boundary Friday and
a Gulf low moving through our area over the weekend interacting
with the front off the coast, which would keep our rain chances
enhanced over the weekend. Some models, like the Euro, aren`t
initializing with a Gulf low at all and just continue the front
moving through the Gulf, indicating lower rain chances. NBM is
more in line with the GFS runs that indicate enhanced rainfall on
Friday into the weekend. Given the large spread in the models, the
NBM PoPs were not adjusted much for any targets of opportunity.
It will be interesting to see how the system develops through the
early week as it will impact our rain chances (and frankly, any
potential for winter precipitation, given the colder than average
temperatures) for Friday into the weekend. Winter precipitation is
possible, depending on rainfall and timing , but unlikely/very
uncertain at this point, so it has been left out of the forecast.
It is worth noting that it will be pretty cold though, looking at
the general model consensus, regardless of the spread in
precipitation chances with temperatures below average in the model
guidance Friday through the weekend.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
9719 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:36 pm to
Freezing rain would suck
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54296 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:41 pm to
GFS currently only gets the temp down to around 37°, and around 40° near NO. It does have the rain, but just doesn't bring cold enough air with it.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:43 pm to
Agreed- do not want any part of ice. Although at 5 days out I like seeing the chance for any frozen precip.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35627 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:43 pm to
Its splitting energy north and south. Hence its warmer than everything else but wetter since there is a trailing shortwave but since they dont phase together, the colder air doesnt get as far south.

I think they actually do end up interacting but not coming together early like the Euro. Still a miss on snow for the gulf coast but closer temp wise than the GFS shows and more moisture and a little warmer than the Euro and Canadian.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54296 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:56 pm to
The NAM seems to want to pull the freezing line farther South, and quicker. Looks like a timing issue, a race of temp drop verses how quick that rain moves out.

Just nosing around the SREF looking at timing verses what the NAM has. NAM drops the temp earlier and the freezing line farther South. By the time the temps drop on the SREF most of the rain is into MS or offshore.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
9719 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:20 pm to
My kids are gonna be disappointed... I blaming TD weather reporters.....
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79231 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:33 pm to
Duke, am I reading it right that the GFS is showing like 11 inches of snow for central GA this weekend?
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12987 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:45 pm to
what GFS shows will basically frick Atlanta, good luck with air travel that timeframe
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54296 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:48 pm to
You're not reading it right, but the 18z does show a chance for freezing rain this weekend for that area, snow accumulation is minimal on this run.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 4:50 pm
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10403 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:51 pm to
It 100% happened. I walked out from one of the jetty’s on the Mandeville lakefront. My mom freaked the frick out on me and made me get back up on the sea wall.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54296 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

My mom freaked the frick out on me and made me get back up on the sea wall.

Good thing. You don't have gills, baw.
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