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re: Smokers of the OT: Inside Your Body
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:33 pm to DustyDinkleman
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:33 pm to DustyDinkleman
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1/day
I can’t even comprehend how someone could do that, smoke that many in a day.
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:35 pm to DustyDinkleman
#cigsinside
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:37 pm to DustyDinkleman
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Just to give y’all an idea of what you’re doing to yourselves, a guy posted a video on YouTube showing how 30 packs of cigarettes (1/day) affects your lungs and throat. Pretty interesting experiment.
could have just put a non-smoker lung next to a smoker's lung
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:37 pm to MAUCKjersey1
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smoking inside an establishment needs to be banned everywhere
How about you let the market work itself out and allow private businesses choose their own smoking policy?
I deliberately choose bars that allow inside smoking so I don't have to go outside. Someone who doesn't like smoke is probably not going to go there. Everyone is happy.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:38 pm to Havoc
I had a neighbor who smoke a pack and drank a six pack of beer every evening after work.
He worked on industrial ac units; I’m sure he smoked 2 packs a day minimum.
He worked on industrial ac units; I’m sure he smoked 2 packs a day minimum.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:39 pm to lsucoonass
CSB
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:41 pm to HempHead
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How about you let the market work itself out and allow private businesses choose their own smoking policy?
Because it’s a health issue. What if I want to go to the same bar as you? Why should my health be affected because you were to mentally weak to push back against peer pressure as a teenager?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:43 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Because it’s a health issue. What if I want to go to the same bar as you?
what forces you to?
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Why should my health be affected because you were to mentally weak to push back against peer pressure as a teenager?
because YOU chose to go to that bar
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:44 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Because it’s a health issue. What if I want to go to the same bar as you? Why should my health be affected because you were to mentally weak to push back against peer pressure as a teenager?
I value the freedom of a proprietor to set their own policies over your concern for health. If you don't like their policies, you are free to choose another business. That's the way these things work. You are not forced to inhale my secondhand smoke.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:44 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:Then you aren't actually concerned with your health then are you?
What if I want to go to the same bar as you?
quote:There's no one saying it should be other than you if you insist on going to a bar that allows smoking.
Why should my health be affected because you were to mentally weak to push back against peer pressure as a teenager?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:51 pm to HempHead
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That's the way these things work.
Apparently not. :)
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You are not forced to inhale my secondhand smoke.
Agreed.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:52 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Apparently not. :)
It is, in fact, if you live in a place that doesn't force businesses to conform to such infringements on proprietary freedom.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Government’s first responsibility is to protect its citizens.
Yeah I chose to go to a restaurant. Sure. And I could go somewhere else... but I didn’t. And because I chose that establishment shouldn’t mean that I’m subjected to toxic chemicals.
Governments responsibility to protect citizens > free market economics.
Yeah I chose to go to a restaurant. Sure. And I could go somewhere else... but I didn’t. And because I chose that establishment shouldn’t mean that I’m subjected to toxic chemicals.
Governments responsibility to protect citizens > free market economics.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:54 pm to HempHead
Those places are shrinking.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:54 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:ah yeah
everyone did drugs at Episcopal. It was the cool thing to do.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:55 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Government’s first responsibility is to protect its citizens.
Taken to its logical conclusion in light of health concerns, the government should be restricting the intake or sale of any substance that may cause harm - whether that be alcohol, drugs, or cheeseburgers. Or maybe, in its great concern for the body politic, it should ban motorcycles, rock climbing, or any potentially dangerous activity that is a threat to a citizen's good health.
The government's primary responsibility is to protect the rights and freedoms of its citizens.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:56 pm to HempHead
I think it’s a fair compromise. You shouldn’t drive drunk because it’s hazardous.
No one is saying you can’t drink.
I’m not against smoking, just don’t affect me.
No one is saying you can’t drink.
I’m not against smoking, just don’t affect me.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:58 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:I really think you should spend some time thinking about where this actually leads and whether or not that's something that you really think is a good thing.
Governments responsibility to protect citizens > free market economics.
Hint: It doesn't end at smoke free bars.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:59 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
There’s enough checks and balances where I think we’re ok. 
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:59 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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I’m not against smoking, just don’t affect me.
That's quite a bit different than saying the government's responsibility to protect its citizens is greater than the freedom of the market. It just sounds like you want to use government power to enact your own personal preferences.
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